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[-] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

palestine was there first, Israel is a far right state dedicated to a colonialism of Palestine

Israel is the wrong side.

[-] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you considered nothing that's happened since the beginning, maybe, but a lot has happened since then, including a massacre the other day where peaceful musical festival attendees and civilians in their homes were murdered, raped, and kidnapped.

While I agree that Israel is not the good guy here, it's a bit more nuanced than just that now. Hamas has done lots of atrocities and now it's more of an Everyone Sucks Here situation. Murder and rape of civilians are not okay (and yes, even the murders Israel has done, although I do find the rape and the targets escalates this latest atrocity into something more viscerally horrible).

Not to mention Hamas is also pretty far-right, also desires genocide, they just don't have the power to do it.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Hamas is not even a fraction of the concern that Israel is. Casualties are not even order of magnitudes close. Even the horrific ways in which Israel has tortured and murdered Palestinians is unmatched by Hamas, despite it being a militia rather than an organized army judged by the international community.

Israel has burned children alive, they have officials who bragged about raping and torturing children, they make people destroy their own homes by THEIR OWN HANDS. And this is while Israel has the upper hand, yet it is still the more horrifying of the two by many orders of magnitude. Comparing the two is sickening.

[-] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

where peaceful musical festival attendees

Oh my god that was so fucking funny. Dance near a concentration camp and you deserve to be shot. Literally right on the fence they used to 'keep out the Palestinians'.

although the rape is not something im chill with, thats fucking evil, they deserved to be judged (but not by israelis).

Kidnapping though is completely justified. Hostage exchange is something they want to do to de-escalate the situation. They said that they would only be killed 'one for each dead Palestinian' in any counter-attack. Israel said they didn't care and started to glass Gaza. Israel is far more murderous than the Hamas ever could be.

Just because there is nuance doesn't rob any side of being right.