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Israel formally declared war on Hamas on Sunday, setting the stage for a major military operation in Gaza as fighting rages on Israeli soil. The declaration comes after Hamas, an Islamist militant group, launched a surprise assault this weekend that has so far killed over 600 Israelis.

Saturday was the deadliest day in decades for Israel and came after months of surging violence between Palestinians and Israelis, with the long-running conflict now heading into uncharted and dangerous new territory. Questions remain over how the Israeli military and intelligence apparatus appeared to be caught off guard in one of the country’s worst security failures.

Over 400 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza as Israel responds with airstrikes in the densely-inhabited enclave. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed retaliation, warning his country would take “mighty vengeance” and was readying for “a long and difficult war.”

He urged Palestinians living in Gaza to “leave now.”

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[-] Boggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Check population numbers of Palestinians and Israeli Arabs

[-] Boggy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Thanks for proving you have no idea what genocide actually means.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

An attempt to eliminate a racial or cultural group of people, generally via either forced deportation or killing.

Since neither Israeli Arabs or Palestinians are seeing population declines, there's no attempt at genocide going on.

[-] Boggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I didn’t mean the google definition. I mean the definition used within political science (which I have a degree in) that is used to distinguish war from genocide. I was hoping you’d assume as much but disappointed again. There has been a decline in fertility rates in Palestinians in Gaza, West Bank, and Palestine. Furthermore there has been a decline in education of the same groups as well as a large difference in COVID response when compared to Israelis. These are just a few examples of what educated people talk about when they speak about the beginnings of genocide of the Palestinian people.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

"Not the actual definition, MY definition!"

[-] Boggy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No I literally explained. The definition and criteria through political science. Not the laymen’s definition. Laymen.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

So not the actual definition, you mean one you made up

[-] Boggy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nope. I explained in my comment. The one used in political science, not the laymen’s definition. However by all means continue to be wrong, it doesn’t matter to me if you can’t wrap your head around what’s going on.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

Uh huh okay

And what is this definition of genocide which you feel Israel meets

[-] Boggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You aren’t very clever dawny, my comment gives three examples. Limiting education, healthcare, and therefore fertility. All are part of the larger criteria for a violent conflict being more than just a war, but a genocide. Change your name to Laymendawny.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

......k

Israel doesn't occupy Gaza. If their healthcare and education is limited, it's by their own government. Which is Hamas.

And, also, even if what you said WAS true, reducing education tends to INCREASE fertility, Mister "I have a political science degree"

[-] Boggy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You are just making shit up. Education decreasing does not increase fertility. Nor is hamas the Palestinian government. Why do people insist on talking out their asses about things just to look to be knowledgeable on a subject.

Although you are right. This is something I have a degree in so yes I will correct people spreading misinformation. I’m not some guy with an opinion. I’d love to talk to you about something you have a degree in. It’s clearly not this.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

You don't have a degree in political science if you don't know basic shit like the fact that Hamas is the Gazan government.

At best, you did poli sci 101.

[-] Boggy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

we weren’t talking about the Gazan government were we? We were talking about the Palestinian government. Two completely different things. Work on your reading comprehension. I think this is more than just laymendawny…dummydawny has a ring to it though no? It just fits.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Why would we talk about a government that doesn't control Gaza lmfao

Just admit you don't know what you're talking about

[-] Boggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What kind of people live in Gaza? Palestinians. You can talk about whatever you want. I’m talking about the government representing the people who have been forced to live in Gaza. It’s really not that hard to follow what I’m saying. Is English your first language?

I feel bad for people that know you in real life. Lemm.ee’s most insufferable smoothbrain.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

The government which represents Gaza is Hamas. Fatah doesn't control Gaza.

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