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I mean it’s different in about every aspect. Each county and city law has to be followed and land bought and fought about. Yes Elon maybhave halted but the project was so grossly under priced and the delays with Covid.
Not excusing but let’s see the clear differences
E: I’m not defending hyperloop or Musk in anyway. I’m saying it’s ridiculous to compare California and China where communist party controls every aspect of life. Surprisingly, California isn’t communist China, where here governments differ and laws are different and labor isn’t the same. Also local governments can fight back and have in multiple counties with law suits, along with budget changes.
This is really fucking obtuse take and should compare the US as a whole, especially when Obama wanted more rails. But surprisingly law suits and lobbyists challenged it hell
Hyperloop is vaporware. It was a highly inpractical sci-fi concept when it was dreamt up first a literal century ago and nothing has changed about the laws of physics since then.
Vaporwave doesn't mean what you think it means.
California high speed rail is an actual project which has actually been building actual rail since 2008. It is the only rail megaproject active in the United States. It has many challenges, none of them physics, some of which were mad worse by Musk's bullshit.
Asking for an actual comparison between the circumstances of the Chinese high speed rail network and the circumstances of the California High Speed Rail project is valid.
This response reflects poorly
No one is defending musk or the shitty loop. California and China can’t be compared. One is a communist state ran by a party where all local governments fall in line and the other is a US state where different laws and controls are in place.
Why is basic government so hard for people.
Don't forget you don't own land in China. You lease it from the central government for 70 years.
If you look at the context of my comment, you will see I was replying to someone who, it seems, has confused the California high speed rail project with the hyperloop. The first is an actual thing that is being built, the second is a distraction.
As for comparing the situations, of course it can be done. We can look at how the twa countries built rail, see what are fundamental differences and what are things that can be learned.
You just compared them. One can easily provide services for its citizens and also can fuck you over horribly. The other can't provide services for its citizens and also can really fuck you over if it wants.
I'll take California any day of the week.
Spain: 2 different parties ruling the state, with other more local parties on the mix. Starting on 1989. 4000 km up until now.
It's not because China is a dictatorship. It's because California (and the US) doesn't give a shit.