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Youtube let the other shoe drop in their end-stage enshittification this week. Last month, they required you to turn on Youtube History to view the feed of youtube videos recommendations. That seems reasonable, so I did it. But I delete my history every 1 week instead of every 3 months. So they don't get much from my choices. It still did a pretty good job of showing me stuff I was interested in watching.

Then on Oct 1, they threw up a "You're using an Ad Blocker" overlay on videos. I'd use my trusty Overlay Remover plugin to remove the annoying javascript graphic and watch what I wanted. I didn't have to click the X to dismiss the obnoxious page.

Last week, they started placing a timer with the X so you had to wait 5 seconds for the X to appear so you could dismiss blocking graphic.

Today, there was a new graphic. It allowed you to view three videos before you had to turn off your Ad Blocker. I viewed a video 3 times just to see what happens.

Now all I see is this.

Google has out and out made it a violation of their ToS to have an ad blocker to view Youtube. Or you can pay them $$$.

I ban such sites from my systems by replacing their DNS name in my hosts file routed to 127.0.0.1 which means I can't view the site. I have quite a few banned sites now.

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[-] a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To add to your comment, I don't understand the hate for YouTube. People go on their and post entire how to videos on all sorts of topics. I've learned how to code, how to use Linux, how to install flooring, how to 3D model using Fusion360, how some electronics work, how to fix my broken down car, etc. Because of the creators, YouTube has been such a valuable source of information that it's almost offensive when I hear other people complaining about having to watch ads or pay for premium. There's no paywall for the info, it's accessible to anyone with an internet connection. There's a lot of low quality clickbait on YouTube but if you avoid it, YouTube is amazing. It's the only streaming service worth paying for.

Edit: YouTube will probably slowly try and squeeze revenue out of its creators and/or users, I'm not ignorant to the fact that the number needs to go up and to the right. Eventually, it'll be too much. But in the meantime, enjoy it while it's still there and accessible.

[-] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yes but all this knowledge is from the creators, not Google or YouTube. I don't mind paying the creators through direct donations or Patreon or whatever, but I will not pay for YouTube.

[-] a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

but I will not pay for YouTube.

I consider letting ads play or paying for a subscription ‘paying for YouTube’. So I’m curious as to why you wouldn’t?

  • We obviously both agree that creators should be paid

  • I think we can agree that YouTube should be paid something. They host the content, the replication, the back ups, and they provide a single location for viewers to aggregate which helps all creators find new viewers. That is expensive to do and is valuable for creators

Is it the amount of ads they play, the amount they charge for premium, the revenue split doesn’t give enough to creators, or something else?

[-] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's nothing so complicated. I just don't want to. I feel like they earn enough money from collecting (and selling) my data. If they don't, then they wouldn't keep doing this.

[-] a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 3 points 1 year ago

YouTube will probably slowly try and squeeze revenue out of its creators and/or users

Someone hasn't been paying attention for the last ten years. I still remember a time when creators didn't have to tiptoe around topica in a vain attempt to avoid having their revenue ripped away from them.

[-] a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Point taken. I should have said something along the lines of:

probably continue to squeeze more and more revenue…

YouTube isn’t innocent in this but I think a lot of that censorship has been brought on by sociopolitical changes in the last ten years. The further extremes on each side have gotten louder and social platforms are being used to spread their ideas. YouTube is caught in the crossfire on that and instead of doing the right thing, they just censor everyone

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