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[-] dark_stang@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago

It's not inevitable, you could stop apartheid.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

You think that Israel should ignore that a thousand of their citizens were slaughtered?

[-] dark_stang@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

I wonder what could have provoked an attack like. Perhaps decades of oppressive occupation. Constantly escalating violence isn't going to fix this. But Israel is the side that can choose to end it by ending apartheid. All the imprisoned can do to improve their situation is try to fight out of it.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

This is one of those justification posts. To which I always respond that there is no justification for the various atrocities committed by Hamas. To which you respond with something about Israeli oppression. To which I respond that it still doesn't justify the vile and nasty nature of Hamas action and if your moral compass says it does I feel sorry for you. Then I slowly get bored with your inane ideology. Good. So that's it.

[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

So you agree that both sides are doing terrible things and there are no good guys in this situation? Just innocents caught in the middle.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

They've killed almost 1000 in Gaza now. Are you suggesting hamas shouldn't ignore that? When does it end.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

It is war. It ends when one side gives up or is destroyed.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Either side giving up will be genocide. Or destroyed, which is again genocide.

So essentially your idea of resolution is genocide.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Not my idea. Name a war that ended differently.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

WW2. We didn't slaughter everyone in Germany.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

WWII ended with one side surrendering. There was quite a lot of slaughter before that happened.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right but if one side surrenders here they'll lose their land and be destroyed. They aren't similar.

If hamas get Israel the Jewish population is fucked. Look at what's happening now when they crossed the border. That wasn't war it was slaughter of civilians.

If Israel get Gaza the Palestinian population is fucked. Look at the westbank. That is isn't war either.

It's not the same as any war. It's 100 years of religious / racial conflict.

The only end is an agreement or genocide. And 100 years have shown an agreement is unlikely.

They came over the border a killed 1000 civilians. In retaliation Israel has killed 1000 civilians in air strikes. It's not war. It's slaughter.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Its not a war for land, it's a war for cause. Its not Ukraine.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

It's been going on for 100 years and it's almost purely over land.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Not this time.

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