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submitted 1 year ago by sik0fewl@kbin.social to c/canada@lemmy.ca

In a new poll, nearly half of Canadians say they support the notwithstanding clause to ensure that schools tell parents if their child wishes to use a different name or pronoun.

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[-] Rocket@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Again, Iโ€™m not saying anything about those services or anything about what the teacher will actually do.

They are not separable concepts. The are intrinsically linked. Again, we do not exist in a vacuum. You cannot talk about one without the other coming along for the ride.

I get that you like having a neat and orderly space where you can focus on one individual idea and forget that everything else exists. Who doesn't? But this poll is conducted in the real world, where people look at the entire world when considering things. They have no reason to be concerned about a parent inflicting harm based on revealing name information because they understand that the child raising concern about their safety around the parents will also trigger additional supports to address that issue.

Again, you may be trying to imply (since you won't speak to it directly) that those supports are not effective. That very well may be true, but if that is the case, then that needs to be made known. Most people have faith in government services and are making decisions based on that understanding.

In summary: Your original comment doesn't address the comment it is in reply to. It fails on faulty logic.

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

They have no reason to be concerned about a parent inflicting harm based on revealing name information because they understand that the child raising concern about their safety around the parents will also trigger additional supports to address that issue.

This is where I disagree. Your entire premise that what I'm pointing out implies something else is based on a fallacy.

Frankly, you're giving people way more credit for how deep they would be thinking about the implications of their answer.

Just because you answered yes because you thought this was the case, doesn't mean everyone, or even most people would think that.

And, if you desperately want my opinion on what you're arguing... I think it's disgusting to answer yes to that question thinking that it doesn't matter because the system will protect the children. You're giving the system too much credit, and while most might, not every teacher or school official will be on the student's side.

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