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Vegan food: The west vs India (lemmy.ml)

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[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 308 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One of these cultures has normalised vegan and vegetarianism for centuries, the other is trying to wean a meat-obsessed population.

They are not the same thing, nor do they have the same requirements to reach their end goals

[-] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 88 points 1 year ago

How prevalent is veganism in India? Whenever I look at Indian food, it's butter this and milk that. Sure, there are some very good vegan choices, but it seems to me that Indians love their dairy.

[-] portside 29 points 1 year ago

Vegetarian? Yes. Vegan? No.

I am a vegetarian. I eat dairy. I don't eat meat and eggs.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Just eat eggs bro it's just a chicken period

[-] Misconduct@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Except for the part where they're kept in small cages or "free range" in dirty cramped pens. Luckily it's easier to get eggs from chickens raised ethically than meats. You just gotta fork over a few extra bucks or get the hookup at a farmer's market

[-] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

or “free range” in dirty cramped pens.

We drive 10mph around here because the damn chickens like to "free range" in the road. Those are pretty large pens, the size of a damn town.

The USDA needs to get their pockets out of big ag's hands. Free Range should be Free-Fucking-Range. I get to know the chicken I eat got to run wild 16 hours every day, but many people do not.

[-] Misconduct@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah the fuckery that they pull when they list things as grass fed and free range is vile. Then they make a profit on top of it because they barely change anything but charge premium prices for the fancy label.

I'm lucky to have a beef farm in my state that ships locally and actually follows the spirit of grass fed up to grass finished in sprawling pastures. They also do individual slaughter. For eggs we've got a few locals that bring them to the farmers markets on Sundays. Beef is like a once a week thing for us these days and it's usually just ground beef. Chicken and fish are our biggest sources of protein now. I don't really do pork anymore. Can't find any that's remotely close to ethically sourced which is abysmal considering how intelligent pigs are. So I just stopped buying it.

Also, and I'm fully aware this could just be some kinda subconscious bias, but I swear the meat and eggs taste SO much better than the stuff from the grocery. Eggs especially. The yolks are so vibrant and hardly break when being fried. Even the shells seem stronger and less likely to shatter into tiny annoying bits.

[-] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here's my reason for trying to eat a little more beef than that. If I'm giving "lives lost" any value, you can't beat cows for calories per animal death. It beats a lot of plant-based foods. And I do have local beef, though it is not fully sustained like local chicken is... which is why I eat more chicken and seafood as well. Not to mention, even though beef around me can be ecologically sustainable, it will not remain that way if too many people eat it because it needs to be supplemented by import. So some beef = good. More beef = less good.

We actually have some ethically sourced local pork, too. I guess it's nice living in a farming area of my state, despite not living in a farming-state. The butcher's pork section is always small, but he's got some.

Also, and I’m fully aware this could just be some kinda subconscious bias, but I swear the meat and eggs taste SO much better than the stuff from the grocery

Not really a subconscious bias. They are fresher, and preservation techniques often have not been started on them. If you eat an egg that has never been refrigerated, of course it's fresher. (or the opposite, lol)

The seafood my family fishes is right off a boat, generally only a couple hours harvested. After the fishermens' cut, the best stuff goes to a couple local restaurants and seafood markets, and the rest are frozen and shipped. Yes, you can taste the difference. I never liked scallops until I tasted "the real thing" off a boat.