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The U.N. says the Israeli military told it that all of northern Gaza has 24 hours to move south. (www.nytimes.com)

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Israel’s military has informed the United Nations that the entire population of northern Gaza should relocate to the southern half of the territory within 24 hours, the U.N. spokesman, Stéphane Dujarric, said late on Thursday night, adding that such a movement — involving over one million people — would lead to “devastating humanitarian consequences.”

“The same order applied to all U.N. staff and those sheltered in U.N. facilities — including schools, health centers and clinics,” Mr. Dujarric said.

The U.N. was told that the marker dividing the north from south was Wadi Gaza, the statement said.

The U.N. Security Council is scheduled to hold an emergency meeting on Friday afternoon in a closed consultation format

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[-] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This all increasingly makes that horrible Hamas attack kinda look like a false flag event

[-] Veltoss@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago

Maybe not false flag but I absolutely believe they let it happen on purpose. Netanyahu and Co have been setting this up for years after creating hamas and making sure they were the only governing body that could exist there.

This is the final step to their plan to "solve" the Gaza strip problem. A sort of.. final solution I guess?

[-] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 11 months ago

We’ve heard the iron dome touted as one of the most sophisticated defense systems for ever.. yet the attack happens, and it just… does nothing?

Yeah, no. The IDF let this happen. Israel let their own citizens get slaughtered so they would have an excuse to terrorize Palestinians.

[-] Skua@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

The Iron Dome isn't magic and intercepting rockets is not a fully solved problem. It's usually able to intercept something like 90% of incoming rockets that it attempts to intercept. Part of its design is an ability to evaluate how dangerous a rocket is by judging where it is going to land, and it ignores those that it expects not to land in populated areas. During the crisis in May 2021 there were about 4,000 rockets launched over the course of a week, and the Dome managed about 90% of those. 400 rockets hitting targets is obviously still a lot of damage. But the thing is, the difficulty of intercepting each individual rocket goes up if you have to deal with several at once, and this current round of rockets may have been as many as 5,000 in one day. If Iron Dome takes x seconds to deal with one rocket and each rocket flies for 5x seconds, then launching 10 rockets at once means that the Dome just hasn't got time to deal with them all before they land.

That doesn't say anything one way or the other about foul play. But it's not weird that an advanced anti-rocket system was overwhelmed; that's just one of the known ways to defeat a system like that.

[-] ubermeisters@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

I'll agree qith the other user, you chose a poor example here.

[-] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 33 points 11 months ago

This just seems unlikely to me. But I do believe the Iranians funded and assisted with the planning of the attack.

I get the feeling that Hamas was maybe even a little surprised by how successful the attack was. Which has brought about a reprisal even they didn’t see coming.

[-] jimbo@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why would Iran do that? What do they gain?

[-] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Influence over an unstable region

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Their regional rival Saudi Arabia is in talks with Israel to make an alliance with them and the u.s. in exchange for military aid. With recent events they now have to either

Give up on the alliance and the military aid and getting all the latest in military tech.
Continue forth with the alliance and make themselves look like a bootlicking puppet of the u.s. in front of the entire Arab world.

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago

Funding Hamas is popular domestically in Iran.

[-] arymandias@feddit.de 21 points 11 months ago

They did not need to, they created a situation where this was bound to happen, and then they just followed the mantra: Never let a good crisis go to waste.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Even if it is, speculating about that without any solid evidence just makes your argument seem weak imo.

Bad things happen and there are those who are more than willing to take advantage of those events. Doesn't matter if its tsunamis or genocides: there's people looking to exploit the situation for their own gain and have the power to do so at the suffering of huge numbers of people. That doesn't mean resort business owners are making artificial earthquakes.

[-] _chris@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Ding ding ding

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

After the debacle with the "beheaded babies", I'm going through and evaluating every claim that's been made. The mistake that was made before the Iraq War - the public failing to hold the government's feet to the fire over claims about weapons, war crimes, etc., to make sure they had a basis in reality - unfolded into somewhere near a million deaths. That kind of failure can't ever be acceptable.

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