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Israel’s military has informed the United Nations that the entire population of northern Gaza should relocate to the southern half of the territory within 24 hours, the U.N. spokesman, Stéphane Dujarric, said late on Thursday night, adding that such a movement — involving over one million people — would lead to “devastating humanitarian consequences.”

“The same order applied to all U.N. staff and those sheltered in U.N. facilities — including schools, health centers and clinics,” Mr. Dujarric said.

The U.N. was told that the marker dividing the north from south was Wadi Gaza, the statement said.

The U.N. Security Council is scheduled to hold an emergency meeting on Friday afternoon in a closed consultation format

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[-] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 216 points 1 year ago

While the Demographia report found Gaza City isn’t as packed as the world’s most dense cities, including Dhaka, Bangladesh, which has over 80,000 people per square mile, it’s more crowded than global cities, such as London, and three times more dense than Los Angeles, the most population-dense area in the US, according to the report.

CNN

They’re telling 1.1 Million people to move in 24hours in an area more dense than LA or London. In an area without power, fuel, or food.

[-] Veltoss@lemmy.world 154 points 1 year ago

They know it can't be done and they don't care. The rhetoric coming out of their government is pure genocide talk. One of the military guys got furious that anyone cared about Palestinian civilians.

I hope the US doesn't support this or stay silent. We need to have the balls to stand up to allies when they're in the wrong. The world said "not again" to the holocaust and now regularly looks the other way, and it's time countries stop letting this shit happen.

[-] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 year ago

You know the US won’t. The gov’t is too far up it’s own ass and only sees numbers. Israel is profitable to us, and money is the only thing anyone in power gives a shit about. They don’t care that we’re dealing with terrorists, as long as the terrorists make them money.

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[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago

Hurricane evaculations over days are a mess even with power, fuel, and food...

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[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 195 points 1 year ago

I just want to remind everyone that the only reason you’re not a civilian in gaza right now shitting yourself over the consequences of the actions of violent group who hasn’t held elections since 2006 is just pure birth lottery. Keep that in mind before you say something stupid.

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[-] Astrealix@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago

Time for a genocide. And no one's going to stop them. Fucking hell.

Some of my friends have suggested that there might not be a Gaza to fight for independence for in a few years. I didn't believe them, but now it definitely looks more possible...

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[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Someone needs to stop these vile fucks. Israel is going to kill millions if left unopposed.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

It's insane how with all holocaust talk Israeli have no issues applying the same tactics. Cognative dissonance, religion and nationalism just triumphs over logic huh.

[-] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 year ago

Yup. Who gives a fuck about lives when one side’s imaginary friend says the other’s imaginary friend is wrong

Literally people killing each other over fairy tales.

Oh, and because Israel stole their land.

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[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago

Disgusting. These people had nothing to do with the attack. The actions of a few do not justify the wholesale slaughter of a nation.

[-] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Imagine if some proud boys from the US were attacking Canadian civilians, after Canada has been occasionally striking the US and being quite excessive in its use of force.

Then one day Mexico warns Canada that the proud boys might strike this location this week, so Canada pulls its security and guards, the proud boys attack, Canada loudly yells to everyone in the world "OH NO CANADA IS ATTACKING ME DO YOU GUYS SEE THIS SHIT?"

And then Canada proceeds to bomb the absolute fuck out of EVERY city within 10 miles of the border. And then the refugees that are leaving the cities. And then telling them "hey we promise we won't bomb you if you go this route" and then bomb that route. And sends troops into refugee camps in order to decide who is suddenly a proud boy...

The world, as usual when it comes to Israel though, completely loses its minds.

It's like everyone is so afraid of being seen as a nazi, they won't aim even the tiniest criticism toward a government/military. It strikes me as profoundly racist to conflate every Jewish person with the government of Israel, or that somehow Israel represents all jews. Imagine if I suggested Kenya speaks for all black people...

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[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 71 points 1 year ago

Friendly reminder that Israel doesn't really mind bombing "safe routes"

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 59 points 1 year ago

Last 3 times they told people to move they bombed the destination. I'd stay put

[-] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Almost like they're concentrating them in some sort of encampment

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago

What would be the point of this from a non fucked up standpoint? It's not like that would help them get the fuckers who did this. All I can see is that they want to destroy everything if Palestinians somehow could completely comply. The fact that they can't just means Israel wants to kill a bunch of people who are unable to get out.

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Israel warned them though. So it's totally fine if they commit genocide.

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[-] Nighed@sffa.community 54 points 1 year ago

The cynic in me says that Israel will now say that anyone left is a legit target/Hamas supporter, even though it's completely infeasible for most of the population to get out in time.

Then after a huge number of deaths, once they control northern Gasa, they will say (because of continuing Hamas attacks) that it's not safe to return. (But mysteriously is for Israeli settlers)

This only makes the Palestinians less likely to leave ....

It's going to be a bloodbath. Hopefully afterwards it will have been enough for some kind of pro-peace faction to become popular on both sides.... Not holding my breath though.

If this does go bad (worse) I hope that the international community condems both sides, they need to be encouraged (if not forced) to find a peacefull solution.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

The far right in Israel, the ones in control, are the most ironic fascists. Bibi has been intent on slaughtering Palestinians for so long, this is all lip service before the mass murder portion of the genocide.

The conspiracy theorist in me still struggles to believe that Hamas (and maybe/probably Iran) wasn't sniffed out by the Mossad or the IDF. These are two groups considered some of the best in the world at what they do and they've been hawking on Hamas for literally longer than most Palestinians have been alive. I absolutely would believe the Israeli far right would martyr a thousand people to get their 2 million.

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[-] filister@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

When you treat an entire nation like livestock and then get surprised they are hating you.

[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

I'll try to stick to facts and not mix my opinions in:

  • The area north of Wadi Gaza contains most of Gaza City, and several outlying neighborhoods.
  • Best I can tell, the furthest point in the strip is 15km away from that line. Meaning this is requesting civilians to relocate by 5-20km within 24 hours.
  • Hamas has built an extensive tunnel network underneath Gaza. These tunnels are constructed with reinforced concrete and are used to house both munitions and operational infrastructure.
  • The US has transferred advanced munitions to Israel.

Now for my personal speculation:

  • The advanced munitions are bunker busters.
  • There is a significant risk of buildings collapsing due to the tunnels underneath being destroyed.
  • The intent is to minimize civilian casualties both from the immediate airstrikes and from potential building collapse.
[-] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

White phosphorus grenades were used by the US in Vietnam to destroy Viet Cong tunnel complexes as they would burn up all oxygen and suffocate the enemy soldiers sheltering inside.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_munitions

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[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 1 year ago

Important note to those unfamiliar with the geography when reading this: the part of the Gaza Strip they want evacuated includes the entirety of Gaza City, the most populated city of the Gaza Strip. They are ordering the migration of 1.1 million people into smaller towns and cities to the south, to empty Gaza City. In 24 hours. This would be disastrous even if it was possible. But there are countless factors making it not possible for people to just pick up and leave, much less in 24 hours, including that the primary hospital of the entire Gaza Strip is in the evacuation area, and is full of injured victims of the bombings the IDF has already undertaken. They have also bombed the caravan on primary roadway people are taking out of the city, according to several news sources

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Oh I don't like this, I really, really don't like this. This is giving terrifying vibes

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

I'm afraid there's gonna be a genocide in Gaza

[-] Aylex@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago
[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Yes, don't let people forget that this has been an on going genocide in Gaza and this is just Benjamin "needs a tiny moustache" Netanyahu "starting up the ovens" if you wanna get dark with it.

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[-] Camzing@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

They are going to try and push them into Egypt and take it all.

[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Netanyahoo is a nationalist fuck, so that's probably what his plan was if it's true he and his military intelligence ignored the planned attack.

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[-] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This all increasingly makes that horrible Hamas attack kinda look like a false flag event

[-] Veltoss@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

Maybe not false flag but I absolutely believe they let it happen on purpose. Netanyahu and Co have been setting this up for years after creating hamas and making sure they were the only governing body that could exist there.

This is the final step to their plan to "solve" the Gaza strip problem. A sort of.. final solution I guess?

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[-] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 year ago

This just seems unlikely to me. But I do believe the Iranians funded and assisted with the planning of the attack.

I get the feeling that Hamas was maybe even a little surprised by how successful the attack was. Which has brought about a reprisal even they didn’t see coming.

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[-] filister@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wish there was a way for normal Israelis to get the same treatment as Gazans so that they have finally seen what is the real root cause of the problem.

The media is extremely opionated and show predominantly the human side of the Israelis and there are almost no stories about the horror in Gaza. That's not exactly independent media.

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[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago

So uh... When is the U.S. and Europe going to withdraw support for Israel? I mean, genocide doesn't seem very in vogue nowadays, you know...

[-] livus@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Caligvla

I mean, genocide doesn’t seem very in vogue nowadays

It kind of is though?

In the last 3 years I've counted about 6 different conflicts that look like genocides or incipient genocide attempts to me (based on Raphael Lemkin's original definition of the term).

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[-] middlemanSI@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago
  1. Create excuse, 2. Retaliate (defend), 3. Expand. Conquest 101
[-] urfavlaura@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

where the fuck should they go

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

To make one of the most densely populated areas in the world even more densely populated.

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