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[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

As someone who has taught people a variety of languages. No. This happens regardless of what language you choose. It's just a universal programmer experience to get frustrated at your work

[-] Knusper@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I am not saying that you don't get frustrated at your work in other languages. I'm saying this particular frustration is characteristic.

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What issue is that you think is unique to python?

[-] Knusper@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, I'm not just talking about issues.

everything looks good, time to run it

This sounds like they did not or could not explicitly compile it. Pretty much all popular languages are compiled. JS isn't, but people are less likely to say that they 'run' that one. Ruby isn't, but it's not as popular as Python.

Well, and my preferred version of "everything looks good" is "everything compiles", which with a strict enough language does also make failure during the first run much less likely.

I'm also not saying that these aspects are unique to Python.

The language failing to tell you where the issue is also happens in JS/TS, C/C++ and I'm going to presume Ruby, too.
Python is just again rather popular and some of these choices don't make sense with my first hunch.

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly man it just sounds like you have struggled with dynamic languages and by extension prefer static (compiled) ones. Which is totally fine you don't have to like everything. But I do think you're missing the real issue with "everything looks good." It's a lack of experience with the tool. It doesn't matter if you're using something as strict as Rust or dynamic as Lisp. "Everything looks good," is always bad. You should know "this is how this works," which is just not something a newbie can handle when they still don't know the difference between pass-by-reference and pass-by-value (or that those words even exist!)

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