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this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2023
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You can buy 700 votes anonymously on reddit for really cheap
I don't see that it's a big deal, really. It's the same as it ever was.
Over a houndred dollars for 700 upvotes O_o
I wouldn't exactly call that cheap 🤑
On the other hand, ten or twenty quick downvotes on an early answer could swing things I guess ...
For the companies who want a huge advantage over others, $100 is nothing in an advertising budget.
I have a small business and I do $1000 a week in advertising.
Yeah, 700 upvotes soon after a post is made could easily shoot it up to the top of even a popular sub for a few days (specially with the lack of mod tools rn), with others upvoting it purely because it already has alot of upvotes.
I don't know anything about advertising but what are you doing that costs $1000 a week? I am legitimately curious.
Advertising is incredibly expensive. I pay upwards to $1/click for one of my services targetting a specific group.
If you hate ads, use something like Ad Nauseum instead of UBlock origin. You'll cost companies hundreds of dollars a day.
Honestly, most of them :). If you're reasonably wealthy (make above average wage), every ad you click will cost advertisers at least 25-50¢. The value of your clicks will go down a little depending on a few things, but anything on a website that serves its own ads instead of going through a 3rd party network (think Reddit ads) will stay in the 25-50¢ range, if not more
I run a digital currency investment group.
I can make 10-15k per day, so it's not a lot in the grand scheme of things
You have no idea about business expenses do you. I work in the events industry, corporations hold single evening events for their higher up employees for 10s of thousands in only technical expenses, before the venue asks for rent, or the catering etc. A single month of any basic service on the enterprise level starts from 5 grand.
People are down voting you for responding to someone saying they don't know and would like to know more with "you have no idea do you?". Like yeah, they said so themselves.
People are downvoting because 1) the tone is unnecessary and 2) it doesn’t answer the question. Sure, huge businesses spend a lot of money. Over 95 percent of businesses have fewer than 100 employees though and depending on size and sector 1000 a week could be nothing or orders of magnitude larger than a small business’s advertising budget.
Figure out punctuation first.
super relevant, not everyone speaks english as a first language.
Then those people should not try to insult others for their lack of knowledge about business while displaying a lack of proficiency in English.
Wasn't an attempt at that btw but I don't think you care. It was meant to be more of a "oh boy let me tell ya" but I guess it didn't convey too well. They said they don't know anything about marketing costs. I was talking about business costs in general which is not the same thing and are unbelievably expensive just because they are enterprise level and not consumer. That's why it shouldn't be surprising if any service, like advertising, for a business is more expensive than you thought.
But please explain to me what grammar or punctuation has to do with any of this, or were you just trying to be offensive for the sake of it? Super relevant, super productive. This is the kind of thing people are happy to be leaving reddit isn't it?
It's like how Dexter only murders murderers, I only bully bullies.  I really get the feeling that you weren't trying to now so I'm sorry for that but when you ask some one "they really know nothing about X do they" it's always considered insulting.
the only problem here is that 700 reddit upvotes is not "huge advantage over others". i honestly fail to see how someone could pay $100 for that. i'd consider $10 too much.
or do you spend your $1000 budget on 7000 reddit upvotes? :D
700 extra upvotes in the first couple hours on a medium sized hobby sub is an enormous amount and will give you great exposure to potentially tens of thousands of potential customers who won't just ignore it like some banner ad (since they'll think it's real content).
If you're an indie dev marketing game, it's cheap as shit. Shoving your post into the faces of thousands would very easily get you more than that in sales.
To me, the draw of Lemmy is that it's not the same as it ever was here. I don't know the internet before ads, this place is great!
Cause the problem, sell the solution. What a degenerate.