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submitted 11 months ago by GreyShuck@feddit.uk to c/world@lemmy.world

Australians have resoundingly rejected a proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in its constitution and establish a body to advise parliament on Indigenous issues.

Saturday’s voice to parliament referendum failed, with the defeat clear shortly after polls closed.

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[-] gladflag@lemmy.ml 89 points 11 months ago
[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 47 points 11 months ago

I personally didn’t pay close attention to the campaigns, and think it pretty obvious Australia has a fair way to go on indigenous issues, but my impression is also that the Yes campaign was poorly executed and thought through, failing, in part, to recognise how much of an uphill climb it was going to be and how easy the No campaign was going to be. For instance, while reading the ballot, I was taken aback by how vague and confusing the proposal was, despite having read it before.

Otherwise, I’m hoping there’s a silver lining in the result where it will prompt an ongoing conversation about what actually happened and get the country closer to getting better at this.

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 11 months ago

I agree that Labor very badly misread the room. I'm a bit grumpy about it TBH.

I don't think Australia is really ready for a meaningful conversation about issues relating to first Australians - hell, I'm not if I'm really honest.

[-] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 19 points 11 months ago

They will be ready when there are no indigenous people left.

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Tasmania taking point on this.

[-] Welt@lazysoci.al 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's perpetuating the racist myth that Tasmanian Aboriginal people were exterminated entirely. The Black War in Tassie arguably was a genocide but there are some Indigenous descendants today.

But with Tasmania's functional literacy below fifty percent (never mind two-thirds of the island's population being welfare dependent), it's never going to be the centre of intellectual discourse of any kind in this country.

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

So... you agree then? That Tasmania has done more / come closer to achieving that horrific goal than other states?

I didn't say "exterminated entirely". I said "taking point". As in leading the nation (state-wise).

I can understand the misunderstanding from an implication - but remembering the Black War is a good way to help fight against it happening again.

[-] Welt@lazysoci.al 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I mean, to be perfectly fair it happened in the Van Diemen's Land colony, around seventy years before statehood, it was far from the only atrocity committed against Aboriginal people, and Indigenous Tasmanians were in a much worse state (no pun intended) at the time than those on the mainland. But if you want to add it to the list of Tasmania's achievements alongside those othet two nation-leading measures I mentioned, I won't stand in your way!

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