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[-] FaceDeer@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

That is the common narrative among Americans and Redditors

And also reality. Or does Russia still secretly occupy Kherson and Kharkiv? Did they only pretend to launch a major mobilization of new troops and call up prisoners to fill the ranks?

The day-to-day changes of the control map are less clear, especially now that there's major operational security around the counteroffensive, but I'm speaking of the overall "pattern of the war" here.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Kherson and Kharkiv are both examples of Russia giving up territory with minimal losses. Kherson was a very famous preemptive withdrawal, with Russia going back on its statements that it would protect the people there. I feel bad for the people there who believed it and tried to build back a functioning society, as they were then subjected to UA's fascistic extremist militants that have wide berth to determine a very low bar for being a "collaborator".

Control maps don't mean much by themselves. A party taking a large strip of mud gets very different media treatment depending on who you read and which party gained it.

[-] guyman@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While personnel losses can be debated, there is no debating that Russia is losing territory.

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