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Yeah I mean instead you just had an entire country pretty much unanimously vote for Reagan economics that we're still feeling the brutal effects of today while the dissenting voices were just entirely unheard.
People are louder, they aren't stupider. Shit, at least 2016 was split.
I don't think that proves your point at all.
When people elected Reagan, they saw an articulate, charismatic man offering easy to digest solutions that sounded plausible. They had no context to know that neoliberalism was bullshit that only made rich people richer with each successive failure.
Any dissenting voices were (at best) saying "I don't agree with their guess, so here is my guess instead".
Meanwhile, what do we have now? Donald fucking Trump. A man who is barely coherent. A man whose inherited wealth has shielded him not just from multiple dogshit business decisions, but extremely serious charges of being a traitor to his country. And of course, a staunch neoliberal in the modern "don't say it out loud" movement.
Every piece of information people needed to make a better choice was out there and freely available. There was no excuse for not knowing who he was or that his economic ideas had failed to deliver on their promises thousands of times the world over.
But people continue to enthusiastically support him. They would kill and die for a man who is openly revolted by having to interact with them.
Yes, they're louder.
But they're stupider too.
Doesn't that just show young people are informed to the point that American conservatives have to resort to general silliness and outrage to get their shitty base of mainly older generations to vote?
I think you're confusing the loud minority for the majority
Andrew Tate is a role model for millions of boys and young men.
Okay, maybe they don't have the context needed to understand that he's just a rapist who is desperately trying to pretend his father's abuse was love in disguise.
But the man claimed he was the world's first trillionaire. That's the kind of lie a literal toddler would tell, yet grown men believed it.
Are they the majority? No, probably not.
But I can't remember another group of people so deliberately, unapologetically stupid as modern reactionaries, nor a time where they've wielded so much power.
No, hard stop. Not even fucking close. Your examples are confirmation bias.
Do you not remember the Christian groups of the... 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s? They always have, you just weren't informed via the internet about it.
Articulate the group of people you're talking about then so we can actually discuss them, rather than you just insisting they're everything you pinkie promise they were.
Because you're awful confident about who they are, what their numbers are, what they believed and how much power they weilded without actually articulating who "they" are in any meaningful way.
What? That was a direct response to your comment. I quoted you, "they" is from your comment lol. Try reading that again.
Do you really think that I have to provide evidence to disprove bullshit anecdotal claims that were never proven in the first place? That's not how discussion works.
Okay, so you don't actually know who you're talking about, but you're certain you're correct.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt in case it was a miscommunication and we were talking about entirely different groups of people.
But nope, you're just saying any old bullshit with absolute conviction because you want to look like the smartest person in the room.
Reading back, it's actually pretty obvious that you didn't experience Reagan nor the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. You're just extrapolating your 5 years of adulthood backwards 50 years and assuming you've nailed it.
Lol what the fuck are you talking about? "They" in that context was the "millions of boys and young men" who see Andrew Tate as a role model. This is all from your comment. Haha are you finding it hard to keep track of your fragmented delusional arguments on the internet? Go back to complaining about "people these days" and how much smarter you were back in the day lol.
Oh yeah, you're clearly talking about Andrew Tate followers and have been this whole time. Good lie you fucking clown. The internet has clearly made you smarter.
Haha what? You quoted my response to your Andrew Tate nonsense and asked who "they" was. There was no "they" in the part of my comment you quoted, so "they" is from your comment. But sure, I'll be a clown here, why not lmao.
Here's your comment since you're having trouble with the technological intricacies of the scroll bar:
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Articulate the group of people you're talking about then so we can actually discuss them, rather than you just insisting they're everything you pinkie promise they were.
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Whatever helps you self soothe kid.
But the funniest part of all of this, is that I wasn't even talking about Andrew Tate supporters. They were an example of the embarrassingly stupid shit that people believe, despite your claims that the internet has made everybody better informed than pre-internet relics.
And I could pull out 100 more examples. They supported a president that suggested injecting bleach or "finding a way to get sunlight inside the body" as potential COVID cures both before and after. They've literally killed people based on the cold-reading of a shit-tier, 4chan Nostradamus. There are people who genuinely believe the earth is flat. There is a sitting politician that talks about "Jewish space lasers" and "peach tree dishes" and people donate money to help her keep her job.
But you can't, because you don't actually know shit about the world before the internet, the people who lived in it or if the claims about them you pulled from your ass will hold up to even the slightest scrutiny.
"Kid"? What is this, early 2000s internet? Do you want to threaten to beat me up irl too? Fuck off dude, you're irrelevant, stop acting like the world is ending because you could never figure out how to turn on a printer. The world wasn't better when you were young, your shitty attitude is evidence of that.
Wasn't a thing on my 2000s internet. Maybe it's just because you were 3?
I'm sure that would have really hurt my feelings if I knew absolutely nothing about myself.
Not a thing I actually claimed and not actually evidence of the thing I never claimed. Do you need me to put it in a Spongebob Squarepants meme for you?
Clearly your head is so far up your own ass that you don't know anything about yourself. Do you really think I'm here to "hurt feelings"? Says more about you than it does about me doesn't it.
Your insults are even worse than your hot takes. Are you sure you want to branch out into armchair psychology as well?