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Fediverse sustainability
(lemmy.ml)
A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).
If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to !moderators@lemmy.world!
Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy
You could test out your idea by spinning up an instance that offers curated ads, or probably better yet go entirely ad-free and have a subscription service. Some people may be interested in sustainability, especially if you speak in a language that resonates with them, like explain the value-added benefits of being on a sustainable server vs. a "free" one. e.g. the devs get a salary there and also contribute to the overall Lemmy codebase, beyond that instance so that it benefits the entire Fediverse. But it would be up to you to be the change that you want to see in the world, and make it happen. Also, I am guessing those kinds of discussions won't happen so much on the Fediverse itself, but rather in Matrix or Discord (or Slack?) servers were the actual developers of the Fediverse hang out.
I'm doing that for 4 years already and I'm arriving at the sad realization that no, not enough people care about "sustainability", "privacy" and even less about the actual benefit of using a social media platform that doesn't exploit user data and their attention.
Yep ... the whole "this giant platform is free (because you're the product)" era has done some serious damage that the internet may never truly recover from. Genuinely, with whatever AI is going to do to the internet, that moment we had of people freely associating and building their own spaces online may never return to any mainstream degree.
In many ways, some of the user-friendliness issues the fediverse has had is people being so accustomed to being able to just sign up to free stuff and expect it to be awesome without any work on their part. Now while the fediverse does have genuine user-experience issues IMO, it's obvious by its very nature that it requires effort on the part of users and organisers etc to make it work ... becuase it is literally a "by the people for the people" type of situation. That so many can't even recognise that this is true of the fedi let alone compute what it means and requires is a loss for the internet and in many ways the actual "front-line" of this movement.
Your posts here are also the very first time I ever heard of "communick", so take from that what you want.
Back in August I wrote a post about it which was pretty well received but the LW mods banned me for "advertising". I think it was a pure crab-mentality move, but I won't delve too deep into it.
Anyway, now that you know about it, what are you going to do something with it?
Then you are definitely adding more to this conversation than me: actual evidence trumps mere armchair theorizing every time:-).
There is nothing new under the sun it seems, and so many people are so very short-sighted, that your story makes perfect sense, unfortunately.
Yes, there’s the Matrix spaces and ActivityPub forum where these types of conversations are had, but the masses don’t know about them and or aren’t involved. I like getting the people that will be directly impacted opinion. I don’t care about ads, it was a post to explore options. You bring up very good points and I appreciate that.