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Aside from any moral or political views, it amuses me when people do criminal acts and fail to realize police can inspect personal data like text messages, email, and social media. I think people smart enough to realize that are smart enough to avoid committing a crime in the first place. Though there are smart criminals that get away with it, you just don't hear about them because they don't get caught. In any case I tend to think being stupid is prerequisite to being a criminal.
The only crime here is the crime against humanity of taking away a person's agency over their own body
They had the agency to take care of this for 20 damn weeks into the pregnancy where they were at 100% legally, even disregarding the options we all have to prevent conception in the first place.
On top of that, fetuses are viable outside the womb at 24 weeks, assuming the pregnant woman doesn't kill it at week 28 using medicine as this one did. I can't help but feel that makes 24 weeks a pretty important deadline for when this sort of choice is more than just about the pregnant woman.
Yeah it’s horrible for innocent people to be deprived of life against their own will
yeah horrible to be forced into a shit life they didn't ask for
Wow what a brave person arguing for the rights of those who can't speak for themselves! How do you know what the fetus wants?
I can’t think of a single organism that doesn’t have a survival instinct
It amuses me people use anything Facebook created.
Good job victim blaming dude. This mother and daughter did absolutely nothing wrong here.
What? They had 20 weeks to do this properly with medical supervision but waited to do shit until week 28 of pregnancy, then most importantly broke rule #1: Don't talk to the fucking police. They admitted to the police that they planned it using FB messenger. Whether the police got the DMs isn't as relevant as the fact that when they were questioned they admitted it.
You're still victim blaming.
The victim in question openly stated they wanted an abortion at 28 weeks so they could wear jeans again.
Please stop using the phrase "victim blaming" to abrogate the necessity for critical thought.
This isn't some "she shouldn't have dressed like a slut" situation.
At some point people need to be held accountable to some absolute minimum level of personal responsibility.
Let's be honest here.
How long do you think that child would last being parented by someone who wanted their child aborted so they could wear their jeans again.
Abortions should be easily available to any and all women, in every state.
I don't agree with their decision making length, but if abortion wasnt such a fucking touchy subject, the woman probably would have done so as soon as she found out.
Her body, her choice.
Men and politics need to get the fuck out of the way.
She literally had 20 weeks to do it legally with no problems.
And she didn't. And mostly men around america make it a massive political issue. I'm not condoning the length of time it took her to decide.
But I'm also not conding your response saying she had x amount of time, avoiding my inquiry about the ability to not be a good parent. What's worse? A small amount of time for a fetus, or a lifetime when the kid boils to death in the car cause mommy wanted to go shopping?
Quit wishing misery on birthed children all in the name of a life. It doesn't work that way.
If it was her body her choice, and she had education about it, or possibly free access to birth control, this might not have been a story. Sadly, it seems America is walking backwards with women's reproductive rights.
I'm not going to get worked up about a woman aborting her fetus for whatever reason. Make all other options more attainable and then it's a conversation to have, but not really. If I found out my wife would have a higher than average statistical chance of dying while giving birth, she could make her choice. My preference would be, let's just try for another and hope it doesn't put her life at more risk.
This isn't the case here, but how about we throw pitchforks at the penis that impregnated this young woman? It does take 2.
Umm an abortion at 28 weeks is illegal almost everywhere in the world dude, except in extreme circumstances like safety of the mother. Many EU countries limit abortion to first 12 weeks or so.