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Sowing confusion to deflect blame is Tel Aviv's usual propaganda strategy.

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[-] therealrjp@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Are you trying to suggest that Hamas were some how justified in intentionally killing innocent civilians?

Not having an answer doesn’t mean you can’t condemn both sides in this.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you trying to suggest that Hamas were some how justified

I can't speak for the person you were responding to... but yes - Hamas (and every other organisation Palestinians choose to support) has every goddamn right to fight Israel in whatever way that works. And no... I am in no way suggesting that - I'm stating it outright.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

Advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians is disgusting.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Israel has been doing tons of that since 1949 - where were you and the rest of the pearl-clutchers all this time?

[-] therealrjp@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t see here where anyone is trying to justify Israel. They’re wrong. So are Hamas. It’s that simple.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I don’t see here where anyone is trying to justify Israel

Here... you dropped some of your pro-Israel "both-side-ism" tropes - let me point it out for you.

Advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians is disgusting.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Not advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians, because I'm not a monster.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

And offering nothing but slap-on-the-wrist apologetics for Israel's decades-old genocide while demonising Palestinians when they fight back makes you (somehow) less of a monster?

[-] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago
[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

This you?

Not advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians

[-] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure is, good job!

What about it?

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

So you admit to glossing over Israel's decades-long genocide?

That's remarkably honest for a liberal.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

So you admit to glossing over Israel's decades-long genocide?

Nope, I admit to saying that advocating for the slaughtering of innocent civilians is disgusting.

If you think those 2 things are the same, then you might have brain damage.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you think those 2 things are the same, then you might have brain damage.

Riiiight... those of us who know better calling attention to the fact that you libs only began worrying about the "slaughtering of innocent civilians" as soon as Israel was handed a miniscule taste of it's own medicine are doing so because... "brain damage".

Riiiight.

Here. This wasn't written for you - it was written to satirize you.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago

It's funny, because you have to invent those things about me, while I can link to where you actively advocated for the slaughtering of innocent civilians.

I guess that's the best someone with your level of brain damage can do, though. So sad.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It’s funny,

No, there's nothing funny about people minimising Israel's 80-year genocide because "Hamas bad".

And you can't even claim "brain damage" as an excuse.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

I don't support Israel though?

[-] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Did you reply to the wrong person?

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

When you are trying to accuse someone of supporting the slaughtering civilians, and they aren't supporting Israel in this particular conflict, then by definition they aren't supporting the slaughtering of innocent civilians.

On the other hand, if you are criticizing Hamas for attacking valid Israeli targets in their fight for freedom, you are implicitly supporting the slaughter of civilians. i.e. you support the fact that Israel regularly bombs hospitals and evacuation routes.

[-] therealrjp@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

You’re entitled to your opinion. I do wonder if it would change if it was your mum or brother or some other loved one that gets killed while minding their own business but whatever. In your mind, Hamas would be justified for it.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I do wonder if it would change if it was your mum or brother or some other loved one that gets killed while minding their own business

I am perfectly capable of understanding the point of view of a person who has had their entire family and/or community murdered, imprisoned or forced to flee - but having that happen to one over and over again for almost 80 years while privileged scum runs interference for the perpetrators because it's simply more convenient to swallow the well-funded propaganda... that stretches the limits of even my imagination.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not having an answer doesn’t mean you can’t condemn both sides in this.

It actually does, because it means you're just playing pretend instead of grappling with the world as it actually exists.

So shut up 😘

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