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Tldr: Nobody wants them, because they fear they will bring hamas with them and because they are a political tool against Israel.
Its seriously f*d up.
A friend from Lebanon basically explained to me the exact same thing, it's not that they don't want Palestinians, it's that they know Hamas will 100% enter Lebanon as refugees, and add to that the centuries old conflict between Shia and Sunni Muslims (Hezbollah is Shia while Hamas is Sunni) and you have your answer.
Thought Hamas was shia too since they work with Iran so much
Yeah that's a bit counterintuitive but perfectly makes sense when you remember that Hamas originated from the Muslim Brotherhood, which is Sunni.
Well why are they working with Iran then? I though Muslim Brotherhood types tended to align with the Erdogan wing of Turkey's politics given that they're trying to replicate that muslim reaganism kind of vibe.
A case of "the enemy of my enemy is also my friend". That they're too different ideologically doesn't mean they can't work together when they're not on the same soil.
True, but also maybe they remember the Black September?
NIMBY but country-level. "THEY DESERVE A COUNTRY! - but keep them out of ours. We don't want the crime or poverty. And don't tell the press or citizenry we said that."
:P
They deserve a country on their land. I hate Sisi with all my heart, but he's right. There's only one way Palestinians migrating out of Gaza is going to end and that's not Israel calling them back in after they're "done rebuilding".
Yes, but also they’re human beings and their lives are on the line. A diaspora is better than death, or at least that should be an individual decision.
There are already millions of refugees in camps around the world. Countries won't take them. Turkey and Iran each host over 3 million already, and they host the most refugees of all countries. Where will this diaspora go?
I mean other than that there's the fact that most countries can't readily accept two million refugees, and if Israel's current stunt gets them Gaza I don't wanna imagine what will happen to the West Bank.
Bullying Palestinians from their land in the West Bank has been going on for decades, and is getting a big push in the last week as the world is focused on Gaza and jewish extremists feel emboldened. Zionists are far more interested in the fertile West Bank (and Jerusalem) than the rubble in the Gaza Strip.
And it won't be pretty but two million refugees could be spread out, there are a lot of extremely wealthy countries that always say they support the Palestinian People. But apparently only as long as they remain in Palestine...
This is from the article, so nowhere near your tl:dr
Yes it's a terrible tldr if you get into nit and grit of it. :)
I can say that Palestinians are being used by islamist groups since the beginning of time and those groups care more for the destruction of Israel than anything else, including having a country named palestina.
That's fair. Kind of the same way as Afghanis and Iraqis have been used by Western nations to overthrow gov'ts that don't want to make oil deals with said Western nations.
It's a game that costs innocent lives, no matter who the players are.
Only that one is exploitation for practical reasons, one is religious. The first can be negotiated, the second cannot.
This conflict cannot be solved by the west, Israel, or anyone else, but the Palestinians and for many decades they were pushed by hamas and Israel together to not go into direction of peace.
pRaCtIcAl rEaSoNs
Maybe not the correct word for the situation, but I'm sure the meaning is there.