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youtube getting more aggressive.. i've got firefox and ublock but this shit is still coming up
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What's realistically the closest to YouTube today? Like Lemmy, small acorns need bigger communities ๐ Slow, but it'll happen. It's also not a bad thing to have people used to switching platforms every x amount of years. That aside, does a VPN work, or Newpipe?
I'm in EU, not getting any ads yet on Firefox or Newpipe.
Depends on how you consider several subjective factors, including political, economical, technological and ownership/control.
Closest to lemmy might be TILvids (Today I Learned videos) โ https://tilvids.com
They use Peertube protocol (FOSS), are sustained by donations (patreon), and there is a few big FOSS influencers there already, like the french developer from The Linux Experiment.
There is a few corporations that are pretty much national versions of youtube, like Nikoniko (Japan), Rutube (Russia), VK (Russia), Bilibili (China), Aparat (Iran) etc that would be nice if they were competitors cause they already have all the infrastructure in place to receive everything in youtube in one swop if we neeeded, but alas they obviously will not be taken. (sorry nikoniko)
There is some minor corporations like Odysee, Rumble, Dailymotion, Vimeo. But they are still private profit-driven corporations, so they can go the youtube way eventually. There is some rumours that Tiktok might launch a separate app and site for youtube-style videos too, but again, it is another private corporation and controversial.
The scale of capital needed for video hosting is several orders of magnitude bigger than text and images, this is why youtube became a de facto monopoly on most parts of the world. There is several text-driven social media sites, including this one, but only one big youtube.
Peertube is a federated YouTube clone, like Lemmy to Reddit, or Mastodon to Twitter.
The only problem with peertube is the lack of monetisation for creators. In fact creators are more likely to have to donate to keep the platform up, especially considering it has not ads. Meaning it's kind of the exact opposite of YouTube
The only way for it to work even remotely like YouTube would be some kind of donation revenue split - any excess revenue not used to keep the platform going goes to the creators of the videos.*
I guarantee with a video platform like that the amount creators could potentially not get much if not anything, as hosting videos is often a few times more expensive than hosting even just pictures.
Peertube only really makes sense as a self hosted archive, just in case you get banned off YouTube or want to archive your streams. That or a platform for not-for-profits to post their video content.
There are a fair number of YouTube creators who post ad-free versions of their content on Nebula. I think I got Nebula as part of a curiosity stream sub which last I checked was pretty cheap compared to the other streaming services.
Nebula is the closest but it's paid and it's pretty hard for content creators to be invited to join. Next closest is Peertube, which NewPipe works with very well
I've been saying I need to get Nebula for years.
Rumble is possibly the next populous one. A fair number of YouTubers replicate their videos on there.
I don't know about Rumble: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/24/russia-state-media-rumble-00020184