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[-] hubobes@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

I am certain your examples are quite impossible. Neither pressure or involuntary signups.

[-] strawberrysocial@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

It might be impossible where you are from (because it's better implemented or controlled there, I don't know) but in Canada our health care has turned to shit (our healthcare system was struggling pre-pandemic and is now even worse). There were instances of First Nation mothers being forced or strongly encouraged immediately after giving birth (when they aren't of sound mind) to be sterilized. If something as horrendous as that can happen, it's not much of a stretch to believe that bad acting health care workers might try to force people who are vulnerable to agree to euthanasia.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canadian-veterans-assisted-suicide

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/report-uncovers-forced-sterilization-in-quebec-1.6663340

[-] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The veterans don’t seem to be such a huge case as the headline suggests. It clearly isn’t systematic and the individual cases sound more like frontline workers who made mistakes instead of malicious intent.

And the sterilizations are clearly systematic racism and not a way to save the apparently fragile healthcare system.

[-] UnspecificGravity@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Canada does not have a great history, given the (shockingly recent) sterilization of indigenous women.

Also, worth noting that assisted suicide had been around in Canada for awhile, and not without it's problems that seem quite like those described by the person you were replying to, including some specific cases:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/11/canada-cases-right-to-die-laws

https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c631558a457188d2bd2b5cfd360a867

https://bioedge.org/end-of-life-issues/euthanasia/disabled-canadian-man-complains-about-pressure-to-accept-assisted-suicide-because-his-care-costs-too-much/

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/canada-law-provide-not-prevent-suicide

There's a lot more if you look into it.

[-] hubobes@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago

These were quite interesting. I don’t really see OP’s claims being supported by the examples given. They either don’t really make sense as the cases wouldn’t be allowed for MAID (according to the article) as they do not meet the requirements of the law. Or they seem to be individual cases where someone mistakenly suggests MAID where they shouldn’t have. That is bad but not malicious intent. And the last article is just an opinion piece claiming all countries with MAID are going down a suicide highway.

There are obviously issues in Canada, like the meagerly 1400$ people apparently get when they are unable to work due to medical conditions (back home we pay 80% of whatever they made before they had to quit).

But I can not see these horrific scenarios that I always read about when these laws are being discussed. It sounds like the government is collecting people on trucks to kill them off. Which very obviously is not the case or they are extremely amazing at hiding it.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are some fucked up nurses in VGH. I can definitely see them pulling this shit.

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