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[-] SciRave@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm American and it's never made much sense to me, either.

Afaik it's fundementally 5 forces.

  • Severe distrust of the established institutions, including the democratic process.
  • Long-drawn, multi-generational unrest ever since late globalization and the decline of unions.
  • Anti-labor propaganda and institutional complacency.
  • Increased alienation and in-fighting among the population. Got much worse ever since the MAGA repubs cropped up. We're fighting against 40-50% of the population for basic shit. (Have you seen our paralyzed congress?)

Finally, this unwillingness to be the first to bite the bullet. Inevitably, the first people to start off these grassroots movements are going to get the shortest end of the stick. They are people sacrificing their free time and economic security for a movement that begs others to do the same.

It's a massive risk.

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

FWIW, I do recognize all of those from the outside looking in.

I also recognize that you have so few protections that action is riskier than it is here, where protesting can't be legally retaliated against and there are actual labor protections in place that make effecting change easier. Which in turn is part of the expectation that the government should proactively help you when you need it.

But still, it does seem like there should be a middle point somewhere where you get rid at least of point one and you tip over point three, right? That seems like it'd happen way before stuff gets really violent.

But then, culturally you guys fantasize about violently confronting the government since day one, which I guess is what happens when your foundational myth is also a colonial-revolutionary myth.

It is pretty messed up, though.

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