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Challenge: US president having a reasonable Middle East take (difficulty: impossible)

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[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago
[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Hamas offered to release two elderly settlers, Nourit Yitshaq and Yokhefed Lifshitz, unconditionally. Israel still refuses to accept them.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago
[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago

I love the imperial framing of shit like this. "That's propaganda." Ok, but is it true? "It's propaganda." What like the people don't really exist? Hamas isn't really releasing them? Didn't Hamas already release other hostages? What are you actually saying? "It's an enemy talking point."

[-] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's maddening that liberals and even plenty of so-called leftists don't understand that every single bit of messaging is propaganda.

   "These gentlemen think that when they have changed the names of things they have changed the things themselves."

    -- DJ Daddy Engels
[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It's maddening that liberals and even plenty of so-called leftists don't understand that every single bit of messaging is propaganda.

I hear what you're saying, but if you openly call it propaganda, most people (libs and conservatives) will take it to mean lying. People will switch off their critical thinking skills if you call it propaganda.

[-] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree. It's obviously a term used in conversations with people who have a common understanding with you. And we need to seize opportunities to point out that liberals' beliefs are equally as propagandistic when we are debating them.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it does work wonders on the libs back home though… 😵‍💫

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