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Traditionally, retiring entails leaving the workforce permanently. However, experts found that the very definition of retirement is also changing between generations.

About 41% of Gen Z and 44% of millennials — those who are currently between 27 and 42 years old — are significantly more likely to want to do some form of paid work during retirement.

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This increasing preference for a lifelong income, could perhaps make the act of “retiring” obsolete.

Although younger workers don’t intend to stop working, there is still an effort to beef up their retirement savings.

It's ok! Don't ever retire! Just work until you die, preferably not at work, where we'd have to deal with the removal of your corpse.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It's just as easy for a market crash to get rid of your private retirement fund.

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

you don't even need a market crash, just a corrupt investor managing the fund

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

True. Madoff wiped a lot of people out.

[-] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I'm not a financial wizard, "homie." It's not my area of expertise. I wouldn't try doing surgery on myself either.

[-] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Diversification isn't brain surgery. It just means buy different things. Put some into a savings account, some into your retirement account, and some shares of VOO. Consider property, gold, bitcoin, bonds, and whatever else floats your boat. Spend a few hours on Google and you're good to go. You can obviously read and you have the internet so you'll have no issues with any of this.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what VOO means. I don't have time to research this sort of thing. I sincerely doubt you can learn enough in a few hours on Google to ensure proper retirement investment. I think that is highly unlikely and if that is what has done it for you, you've just been lucky.

Business schools in universities exist for a reason. MBAs exist for a reason.

[-] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what VOO means.

Since you can read and you have the internet, you could find out what VOO is within seconds. This learned helplessness routine of yours is not believable. You don't need an MBA to open a bank account, or an account with a broker.

[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You know how every bank commercial says "FDIC insured" at the end? That means you've got insurance on your money in there up to $250K. Don't put more than that in any account or a crash may disappear it. This is why you diversify.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/121814/look-vanguards-sp-500-etf.asp

The Vanguard S&P 500 ETF (VOO) is a fund that invests in the stocks of some of the largest companies in the United States. VOO is an exchange-traded fund (ETF) that tracks the S&P 500 index by owning all of the equities within the S&P 500. The S&P 500's investment return is considered a gauge of the overall U.S. stock market.

An index is a hypothetical portfolio of stocks or investments representing a specific portion of the market or the entire market. The S&P 500 and the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) are both examples of broad-based indexes. Investors cannot invest in an index. Instead, they can invest in funds that mirror an index.

[-] CCL@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 1 year ago

If that occurs, hiwever, its not just you it's the whole economy, which in my experience leads to more neighbors acting neighborly, while when its just you and your fellow Workers, you are fucked. ymmv

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

which in my experience leads to more neighbors acting neighborly

Have you ever been to the U.S.?

[-] CCL@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 1 year ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] CCL@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 1 year ago

It's probably different in the burbs, but where real people live, the rural areas and the inner city, adversity certainty builds community.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Please explain why people who live in the suburbs are not humans. Try to do it without being a fascist. This should be interesting.

[-] CCL@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 1 year ago

scientifically human. But suburbanites are primarily the boss class and not the working class. The two classes have nothing in common. The members of the boss class often act incredibly fake, hence my intentional choice of the phrase "real people."

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In a lot of cities, the suburbs are the only place people can afford to buy houses, so that simply isn't true.

[-] CCL@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 1 year ago

Where is this true? Europe? New York (which is just Europe but claiming to be in America)

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, the U.S. Most city cores are far more expensive than the suburbs if you want to buy a home. Look on Zillow for comparable homes if you don't believe me.

Also, how is New York "Europe but claiming to be in America?" Did they get universal healthcare and subsidized college education when I wasn't looking?

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It’s just as easy for a market crash to get rid of your private retirement fund.

You don't lose it all though, at least eventually it'll recover, to the range of somewhat to total amount of the loss.

If it crashes five minutes before you want to retire, then yeah you're screwed. That's why you try to have a balanced retirement plan.

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