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I think that it's because a) the abstraction does solve a problem, and b) the idealized solutions aren't actually all that simple.
But I still agree with the article because I also think that a) the problem solved by the added abstraction isn't practical, but emotional, and b) the idealized solutions aren't all that complex, either.
It seems to me that many devs reach immediately for a tool or library, rather than looking into how to create their own solution, due more to fear of the unknown than a real drive for efficiency. And while learning the actual nuts and bolts of the task is rarely going to be the faster or easier option, it's frequently (IMO) not going to be much slower or more difficult than learning how to integrate someone else's solution. But at the end of it you'll have learned a lot more than you would've by using a tool or library.
Another problem in the commercial world is accountability to management.
Many decades ago there used to be a saying in tech: "No-one ever got fired for buying IBM.'" What that meant was that even if IBM's solution was completely beaten by something offered by one of their competitors, you personally may still be better off overall going with IBM. The reason being, if you went with the competitor, and everything worked out, the less tech-savvy managers were just as likely to pat you on the back as to assert that the IBM solution would've been even better. If the competitor's solution didn't meet expectations, you'd be hauled over the coals for going with some cowboy outfit instead of good old reliable IBM. Conversely, if you went with IBM and everything worked, everyone would be happy. But if you chose IBM and the project failed, it'd be, "Well, it's not your fault. Who could've predicted that IBM wouldn't come through?"
In the modern era, replace "IBM" with the current tool-of-the-month, and your manager will be demanding to know why you're wasting time reinventing the wheel on the company's dime.
I'd go a step further and state quite bluntly that these critics do not even understand the problem that the abstraction solves, and their belief is formed based on their poor and limited understanding of the problem space.
Everyone can come up with simpler alternatives if they throw most requirements out of the window. That's basically the ages old problem caused by major rewrites and their expected failure once the unknowns start to emerge.
Hard disagree.
There is not a single technical argument refuting these abstraction layers; only ignorance of the problems they solve. It's easy to come up with simpler solutions if you leave out whole sets of hard requirements.
The idealized solution never leaves the conceptual stage because the idealized solution is never thought all the way through and the key requirements are never gathered. That's when the problems solved by the abstraction layers rear their head, and what forces these critics to face the fact that their proposed solution is inconveniently converging to the real world solution they are complaining about, but that they are reinventing the wheel poorly.