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[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 137 points 10 months ago

Because it never was about children, they're just an excuse.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 59 points 10 months ago

*an excuse to harm people who don’t think like them.

Their olive branches turned to spears.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

They were never olive branches. They were grasping claws to try and make you act like them, not to understand a different perspective. Once they realized they couldn't pull more people over, the spears come out. It's what a desperate loser does when they become the minority: Try to restore majority control, even if that means literally changing the numbers of people who count.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

This is it - violence was always the intent... They just lack the power to get away with the violence, so they work toward it.

If everyone they don't like is raping kids (pay no attention to the projection to justify their own actions), what should we do about that? I don't think it's an exaggeration to say this would escalate to death camps almost immediately.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Why would they bother with death camps? That implies they give a shit enough to keep it a secret.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

What about a large institution that large numbers of people are ferried to before being slaughtered seems secretive to you?

It's not as though there's a number of historical examples of exactly this kind of thing, right?

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

I mean, there were a shitload of Germans that stated they didn't know what was happening. Seems like they did a decent job of keeping it a secret from them.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah - the SS were kicking in my neighbours' doors and violently hauling them away, never to be seen again as they spout genocidal rhetoric... I'm sure they just took them to a farm upstate where they can run and play all day. Also, your family dog is still alive at 27 - he went to live with them too.

Any plausible deniability faded pretty quickly on that one given the overt rhetoric and actions of those involved. Gellately talks about this reasonably extensively.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago
[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

This is flirting with holocaust denial.

Do you think the millions of people killed in the death camps just thought "Hey, seems like time for a change - I'll leave my home, often with just the clothes on my back, and cram myself into a train to the east - it'll be great!"

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Huh?? My point is that most of the horrible shit that happened in death camps was outside Germany in the places they annexed.

What a weird assumption to make, that I'm suggesting the holocaust didn't happen because I'm asking you specifics. You throw your anecdote out then suggest that it refutes what's been documented.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The death camps were generally outside Germany, but Germans that didn't flee were absolutely dragged to them.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-jews-during-the-holocaust

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

And what I'm trying to say is that the German people likely would not have been able to willfully ignore what was happening had the death camps not been "outsourced".

The point being I don't think MAGAts care about perception. I think they'd just kill people outright.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

Right. It's about forcing the types of people the backwards of society are most uncomfortable with into the shadows, in the name of "saving children," the same children they don't give two shits about

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

It bothers me how many different ways republicans are hypocrites, and yet none of them give a damn.

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