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ANKARA, Oct 25 (Reuters) - Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, in his strongest comments yet on the Gaza conflict, said on Wednesday the Palestinian militant group Hamas was not a terrorist organisation but a liberation group fighting to protect Palestinian lands and people.

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[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

And, here's the thing - before the war they started, Gaza wasn't under occupation. No settlements, no occupation. And the only reason there was a blockade is to try to prevent Hamas from getting what they need to launch rockets.

The West Bank is a different situation. But the dynamic in Gaza is clear - Hamas is the primary reason behind the plight of the citizens of Gaza. They will never build towards the future in peace, and them attacking Israeli soldiers isn't fighting an occupier to free people but rather trying to kill the defenders to enable a genocide.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I would argue that the war did not "begin" with HAMAS. Instead, the war between Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East has been going for around a century now, never stopping, only pausing sometimes, and frequently changing shape and scope. Much like the Korean War though, it's just one long war, still technically ongoing, but all parts of the same single war.

The actual responsibility for it probably belongs to the British more than anyone else, who had governance of the territory when it all began. But, while the British have a long and challenging history, there's just no solutions to be found in putting the blame where it actually belongs--with men long dead of old age.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

It definitely began in 2023. Sure, there have been other wars in the history of conflicts between Jews and Arabs, but they're all individual wars.

I, personally, blame both the Jews and Arabs, but mostly the Arabs. It took until 1973 for them to give up on the idea of ethnically cleansing the area. Jewish Zionist nationalism is at least mostly respectful of the civil rights of their Arab minority.

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