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[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

CW: also not left unity, sorta

spoilerLiterally worse than anarchists though, Anarchists had Catalonia, Makhnovia, and Korean People's Association in Manchuria (probably missing some). Trotskyists, however, just have a bunch of weak political parties. The neo-zapitsitas in Chiapas and the Kurds have Anarchism synthesized with some other beliefs. Where have trotskyists had a significant impact? How are they supposed to have a permanent revolution if they can't even achieve any sort of revolution? (Trotsky was involved with the October Revolution, but that doesn't really count)

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

This is a slight exaggeration, there were significant trot groups holding territory in China and Korea during the Japanese invasion. And of course POUM collaborated (though not really trots by that point.)

[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Can you give some specifics on the China and Korea thing? Korean liberation forces fought the Japanese in a few battles, but almost always in China, and I can't find anything about a significant Trot group let alone one that held territory

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Ugh, so sorry, I was thinking about the Vietnamese Trots which did iirc take territory off the French.

The Chinese one I found in a translated trove of documents about the KPAM where they mentioned Trots holding several villages in the North West, aided by Soviet Left Opposition emigres. Generally cordial relationship.

[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah Ngo Van and his folks. It seems most of what they did was fight in Saigon and then be forced back, and early they had agitated a lot in villages during the 1930s though got cracked down on hard. They had a significant presence in the late 1930s though not in a military sense, but with strikes.

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