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[-] EyIchFragDochNur@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I never got this: are US libertarians democrats or republican? Or both? Because we have more than 2 parties here and they have their own so to say anarchocapitalist party

They're Republicans that are too ashamed to admit they're Republican.

[-] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

pro-choice

Republican

I’m not naive enough to support the libertarian party, but you gotta choose one here lol

[-] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They can say they believe what ever they want, they vote republican...

[-] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They vote Libertarian… did you forget about Gary Johnson and Jo Jorgensen?

[-] EyIchFragDochNur@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Uh so they're having their own party, are they factually just clownish background noise or actually somewhere somehow in charge?

I really thought they're just a movement in one of the 2 big parties or so

[-] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Uh so they're having their own party, are they factually just clownish background noise or actually somewhere somehow in charge?

Amusingly, both. The Libertarian Party exists, but has failed to draw more than a few % of votes in basically every election it has ever participated in. I think they have won a few seats in some state congresses (maybe one or two in federal congress?) over the years.

[-] elint@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

They are Republicans that like weed and pedophilia.

[-] 000999@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Up until reading this comment I'd completey forgotten about ancaps. They used to be a big taking point on reddit. Just goes to show how irrelevant they were the entire time and how easy it is to distract from important stuff.

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