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Maine's mass shooter found dead
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Yet it's still the guns, be it in the hands of an officially mentally ill person or someone who's undiagnosed but can't descern reality from fiction none the less.
Assault weapon ban goes into effect, mass shootings drop drastically.
Assault weapons ban is allowed to expire, it goes up north of 200%.
Assault weapons are revered like Jesus himself and mass murder scenarios suddenly happen every goddamn week.
The prevalence of weapons and free availability of them to virtually anyone, be they mentally ill or fundamentalist radicals, is the direct cause of this getting so out of hand.
Not mental illness or healthcare.
Mental illness exists everywhere.
Mass shootings (and probably any shootings) on the scale and regularity like in the US do not exist anywhere else.
So the crazy people with the guns aren't the problem, it's just their access to guns that are the problem.
Tell that to Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kazinski, or the Tsarnaiev (or however you spell it) Brothers that committed the Boston Marathon bombing, Ted Bundy, or Jeffrey Dahmer (I could keep listing names if you would like). Not one of them used a single gun to actually commit the murders, but they killed or maimed a shitload of people. But yeah, it's the guns that are clearly the problem, not the bat shit crazy people. I agree that there should be stricter gun laws federally, but saying "crazy people don't kill people, crazy people with guns kill people!" is just ignoring the root cause, which is they're fucking crazy.
Mass shootings go down, mass truckings go up. If they want to kill they will find a way. Mass shootings are EXTREMELY rare, statistically, compared to other firms of murder and there is no way in hell that you can implement "assault weapon" bans federally... Hell, band are getting overturned as unconstitutional As We Speak!
Yeah, but getting a truck is harder than getting a gun.
How 'bout not doing that?
Getting a truck is definitely not harder than getting a gun in a lot of states. NJ has a mandatory 2 week waiting period. I could rent a truck in a half hour or less and run into a crowd of people I don't like very easily. You can't even buy a BB gun in NJ!
Dogshit take. "Can't stop all murders, so don't try!"
The people like you that think the only reason that people commit mass murder is because its easy have your heads so far up your asses than these second amendment idiots. If people want to kill a lot of people they'll find a way, it may be a bit more difficult for them but they're not going to be like "oh well, I can't get a gun, so I'll just let my murderous rage dissipate". Does everyone forget that Ted Kaczynski killed people with bombs? Timothy McVeigh killed 186 people with ANFO bombs. The 9/11 terrorists killed thousands of people either directly or indirectly with a fucking plane! Ted Bundy never used a gun either, he beat or strangled the women to death, same with Jeffrey Dahmer. Yet everyone seems to think that if you take away the guns, people will stop killing each other.
I’d rather they take away trucks.
Please tell us about all of the mass truckings that happen daily in the UK and Australia.
Australia and England also have a lot less people than the US. Australia has under a 10th of the population of the US.
This isn't specific to people getting killed by trucks, but here's a list of all the mass murders that have happened in the UK , if you read it you'll see that most of them were committed with bombs. You eliminated guns and people kept killing people en masse! What a shock!
The UK and Australia also have socialized healthcare so you don't need money to get help, it may take a while though from what I've heard.
Can you show demonstrate that bombing deaths in the UK are proportional to the shooting deaths in the US?
Terrorist attacks are terrorist attacks, regardless of the weapons used. That's a lot of attacks for a country with 1/6th the population of the US.
Can you demonstrate that 'terrorist attacks' in the UK are proportional to mass shootings in the US? Evidence please. You have provided none so far.
You mean trucks, as in those heavily regulated vehicles that are hard to be licensed to use precisely because they can be used as killing machines? Those trucks?
What the hell are you talking about with "vehicles that are hard to be licensed to use precisely because they can be used as killing machines"? Are you trying to say that laws keep people from killing people with motor vehicles? Have you never seen a case of "road rage", or what happened a few years back when someone drove a car into a group of protestors in Charlotte, North Carolina (I think that's where it happened).
Pretty much anyone can get a car, you just gotta have money to get one, the only thing stopping you from going all GTA and driving on the sidewalks mowing down people as you go is because you're not messed up in the head. There was literally nothing stopping this guy from using a truck rather than a gun, it's just that a gun was cheaper and more effective.