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"I CAN THINK OF ONE JOURNEY THAT NEEDED A CAR THEREFORE ALL JOURNEYS NEED CARS" Jesus
Cargo bikes need to become more common. It would have easily carried a laser printer ... and a second laser printer ... and your groceries for the week ... and a kitchen appliance.
Edit: Here are the examples from the Not Just Bikes video on cargo bikes:
https://youtu.be/rQhzEnWCgHA?t=470
Even a rear or front cargo rack or basket that's big enough should be able to carry most items.
Here's a large rear cargo rack that should work:
https://a.co/d/1fDsj9b
What exactly made the theoretical bike not an option instead of the theoretical car?
Jesus Christ. Take the bus home. Get the bike. Ride the bike to where the printer is. Put the printer on the bike, and ride home.
Hench why they said they should become more common.
There's a few pilot projects for cargobike shares popping up in my city, and I hope they become more prolific to allow everyone easy access without having to own.
There's also the option of renting a car that single time.
Or just paying for delivery.
Because you were wishing for a car but ruled out a bike as an option? 🤪
Good grief...
I gotta hand it to you, kid, you're the perfect specimen why communities like fuck cars exist, and why nothing is changing.
Even presented with a fucking wishing well you cannot come up with anything but "CAaAaR", because your imagination spans from wall to wallpaper.
You could have imagined and wished for e.g. a working infrastructure of cargo bike sharing, but nope!, car it is!
You don't understand why people hate cars, you're part of the reason people hate cars.
Ah, a car is free, of course, it just drops out of nowhere and runs on unicorn dust. Tonight, please ask mommy and daddy what they're paying for their car(s). Full cost: down payment, monthly payments, fuel, repairs, insurance, loss of value, everything.
I'm gonna tl;dr it for you: if you cannot afford a taxi/uber/whatever even once, you cannot afford a car. There, that was easy, wasn't it?
I thought the printer was just 3 miles away? Did it ever occur to you you could have just gone home, pick up the cargo bike, ride the 3 miles to the printer which literally takes 10 minutes and pick it up?
i mean this is why we invented carts lol
you literally just said you carried a printer 3 miles, what are you on about?
Just use a bicycle, then?
You can't use a car either, so your point is?
Why not?
Taxi? wheelbarrow? Cart? Steal a shopping cart?
I used to say things like this when I lived without a car, but it took me way too long to realize other people walking to the grocery would take a taxi/Uber home. It makes it a lot easier to carry the load and it’s not too expensive in one direction for a short distance
You can't "find" a cart or wheelbarrow or trolley? 🤦
No, you numpty. In such a situation, you pay for it, ask them to hold it behind the counter for you and you'll be back to pick it up.
Then you come back with a way to pick it up.
That's such a contrived example why would we even bother with it?
Typically when people purchase or obtain items that they need to transport home or to someplace, they do some sort of planning ahead. Also, when I was a kid and needed transportation I typically could just ask an adult to help out with this. Or, another option would be to ask the school to hold the object until you could arrange transportation.
In any case, three miles is not a particularly long distance to traverse, and as you pointed out above you were actually able to walk that distance while carrying it. Well laser printers are somewhat heavy, I'm sure it was a little annoying to carry and you probably had to stop several times and rest. By myself had to carry 30 lb of lumber about 3 mi home from the lumber store years ago when I didn't have a car. And yes I was able to manage.
However, cargo bicycles exist and are quite popular in many parts of the world including the United States and can carry up to 400 lbs, so it is not true that the only means of transporting moderately weighty items is by automobile.
In fact, I would be willing to bet that you would not even need a cargo bicycle but a normal bicycle with a rear rack and a couple of bungee cords would probably suffice. I know this because I got away without having a bicycle for 6 years as an adult American in a city and even went bicycle camping a few times with my friends.
And I wish it wasn't raining when my daughter had her 8th birthday party in the park. We don't always get what we want in this world, even when we're doing something we want to do.