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Didnt russia invade ukraine because there were nazis in the country that need to be fleshed out or something? Is it time russia invades russia?
Russia has a long fucking history of invading “Russia”.
It’s Russians all the way down…
They're not Russians.
Русский, no — Российский, yes.
Don't they have Russian "passport" ? How can you tell Russian apart? Are e.g Siberians also not Russians ?
They are citizens of Russia, but not Russians ethnically. Just like a Japanese person with a US passport is not suddenly white person of European descent.
Japanese who is also US citizen is American .
Also Russian is not race , Western Russian are mostly Caucasian, which is probably what you call white person of European decent. So according to your logic , There are no Russians in Russia 😅 👍
Wut?
Not sure what to answer.... let me try one similar level... Doggy sounds... Wuf
You wrote complete bullshit, what kind of a reply do you expect?
At least about what could come from average IQ, i guess. Seems i was too hopeful.
Dagestani people are mostly Sunni Muslim. So I would call the group in this instance Islamic extremists, or just conservative Muslims, and not Nazis. Antisemitism is kind of baked into the Quran, sadly. Not to mention modern history between the two groups kind of fuels that fire.
That's not to say that there aren't actual Nazis in Russia, and there may have even been a few involved here. To be fair, its getting hard to tell the difference between Nazis, and extremely conservative people of most every religious denomination nowadays. So I guess your point still stands.
Not totally true. Arab Muslims and Arab Jews lived mostly peacefully together for many hundreds of years. It's like saying antisemitism is baked into the Bible. It sortof is, but not really. You have to stretch things and manipulate it to do that, and try to force people to care. Most people just want to live their lives. Making any of this Israel stuff about religion just plays into Israel's playbook. Arab Jews lived in that region without murdering the Muslims for a long time. It's the European colonial Zionists that started murdering and saying Muslims couldn't live there with them peacefully.
I would also absolutely say that antisemitism is baked into the Bible. Antisemitism is baked into a lot of things throughout history, too. I am not trying to say that all Muslims and Christians are antisemitic, but their writings most definitely are, and it gives people an excuse to be that way whenever is convenient. Also, none of this excuses what Israel has done and is doing to Gaza.
It really depends on the notion of "Jews in general" vs "a particular group of Jews". The Quran seems to mostly say things about a particular batch of Jews. The most general comment about I can find in the Quran actually discussed by a rabbi in comedic fashion. The same rabbi also has TONS of examples of antisemitism in the New Testament but seems to have a very high opinion of Islam.
This was an interesting discussion, thanks for posting. I learned a bit about the actual history behind that passage, and it cleared up some of my own misunderstanding as a heathen from a Muslim family. I think the problem lies in the fact that conservative Muslims can still use those passages to justify antisemitism, but that's not unique to Islam obviously.
These books are so vague and out of touch with the modern world that people can use them to construct any sort of meaning that they want to it seems. It's the only explanation for why some of the followers can be all about peace and harmony, and other followers of the same book are focused on doom and war.
I feel like it mostly comes to hypocrisy and impatience. As individuals we decide on the amount we absorb of a religion into our daily lives. I would say that those who absorb just enough religion to bolster the narratives and views they already built are misusing an important tool. For instance, if you hated a particular group (in this case: Jews), you could simply stop narrating the following after the first sentence:
In the first generation of Islam, many efforts were made to establish a believing community with the Jews; and one by one, each of these [Arabian] Jewish tribes betrayed those Muslims. However, when those same Muslims took over Jerusalem, the prohibition of Jews in Jerusalem was lifted in order to let Jews worship in Jerusalem. It's obvious that the first generation of Muslims did not blame all Jews for the betrayal of SEVERAL tribes.
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The crazy thing is they are all almost exactly the same religion
Right. Religion ruins everything.
If you beleive Putin, Russia invaded Russia by invading Ukraine!
So you literally no nothing about recent Russian history? Russia was at war in Dagestan with Chechen Islamist militias in 1999.
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I no what you're trying to do, and it's knot going to work.
I haven't disabled autocorrect yet.