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Some news that would be completely mundane today but scary or shocking in the past.

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[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 57 points 1 year ago

Thanks for saying this. I bet most americans dont know that a convicted rapist was their president. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

I'm not an expert on the nuance of the US legal system, but "convicted" probably applies to the criminal system, right? What would it be in this scenario? A confirmed rapist? Just "a rapist"?

Still, the guy raped some lady and he's actively running for president. That one would be shocking any time before the mid 2010s, honestly.

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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Yeah, “civilly liable rapist” doesn’t have quite the same ring to it

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Civil was the case that they gave me

What’s my motha-fuckin name? “Civil Suit Loserrrrr”

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

Well, that's not so bad then... /s

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

They know . A huge chunk just doesn’t care.

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 7 points 1 year ago

I have family in the US (who are not trumpets afaik) and they wouldn’t know that he actually got proven guilty for doing it. They‘d probably assume he made a deal.

[-] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Isn’t it a civil trial tho and not a criminal trial? Meaning that the bar for evidence is just “more than likely” and not “beyond a reasonable doubt” right? I mean it’s still very damning but he has not (yet) been found guilty of the crime, just liable.

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 1 year ago

There is an important distinction of being "convicted" and "proven guilty" though. You can get off a conviction through multiple means, one being a mistrial and so on. I think there is no two ways about this after reading:

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Was there a criminal trial, that ended in one of these other ways?

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