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[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Ideally Israel wouldn't have been oppressing Palestinians in the first place so that Hamas would never have come to power. They could have engaged in dialogue and diplomacy with Hamas and the Palestinians to figure out something that would work for everyone. They could have negotiated a prisoner swap or something for the hostages.

But Israel, specifically Likud and the right-wing parties, have no interest in this. They want all of Palestine gone, and to control it all themselves.

[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Not to mention that Hamas had accepted the 1967 borders back in 2017 and it was Netanyahu who rejected it. Hamas is a pet project by Netanyahu to divide Palestinians in Gaza from the West Bank. He’s helped nurture and support them as a means to do more land grabs and expand Israel’s territorial grip. So the starting point has to be a full withdrawal of the occupation, the ability for Palestinians to have a democratic government that is free from Israeli influence, and the restoration of the 1967 borders. The withdrawal of all Israeli settlers from within Palestinian borders.

[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You leave out that in the same statement, Hamas denied the statehood of Israel, indicating that they wanted Israel to make huge one-sided concessions, without making any concessions of their own.

[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because Israel has been literally stealing land while demanding Palestinians give up more.

Edit: added context.

They literally started a land grab in 2017.

https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2017/50-years-illegal-settlements/index.html

[-] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

They can also currently stop protecting murderers in the west bank. So we don't have to ask how did a radical movement take power there a couple of years from now.

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