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Palestine-Israel Crisis Megathread II
(lemmy.ml)
This is the second megathread for discussion regarding the crisis.
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You're talking as though the attacks happened in a vacuum, without intelligence from several sources pre-warning of it and without a certain level of collusion from the Israeli executive to allow it to happen and bring capitalised by then for it's maximum effect.
When you can genuinely approach the subject not from such a disingenuous perspective then my response may well be perceived by you as a bit more than "If you don't want to be taken for a cunt then don't act like one "
For me it sounds like you are you saying, they deserve the terrorist attack and are not allowed to react to it.
Then you're just ignoring geopolitics and talking about who said what.
That would be the exact reactionary response I would expect from someone with no grasp of the history, its complexity or even a miniscule amount of knowledge of the atrocities that have been carried out against civilians by both sides
We can't change the past. What should Israel do now?
So you didn't bother to read my comment then?
If you're too lazy to do that, why the fuck should I put any effort beyond this in replying?
I did. Replacing the government with one less bad would be good, but what should such a theoretical good government do in response to the Hamas attack? For example, I think more fewer air strikes and more ground combat would be better for minimizing civilian casualties, though more Israeli soldiers would die as a result.
Restore Palestine to the 1917 borders. Grant all Palestinians equal rights within those borders. All zionists who were involved in perpetrating war crimes either directly, or indirectly via policy, to face trial at the Hague
That would desolve the state of Israel wouldn't it? That isn't really tennable for an Israeli government to do.
I really don't care whats tenable for a state born out of terrorism that has been carrying out ethnic cleansing and genocide against the indigenous people for the last 70 plus years.
They have no fucking legitimacy and as much right to continue to exist as the NSDAP government after WW2.
Do you think there are any solutions short of that? Because saying Israel should just dissolve is supremely unhelpful.
They could allow Palestinians full rights and statehood in Israel, with protections from the racist inhabitants.
To clarify, are you saying give the West Bank and Gaza strip statehood as a Nation of Palisade separate from Israel, or give the people there citizenship as Israelis?
Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections.