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[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago

No, he's into super-democracy. Democratize everything, including ownership and the workplace.

Lenin was the one who came up with the idea to centralize everything, Marxist-Leninists mistake the proletariat as better, when the truth is it's all structural.

Marx differentiated two groups in different social classes and drew a straight comparison from feudal lords to the ownership class, and said "their interests are different from the rest of ours, and capitalism benefits them at our expense - including by giving them an unfair advantage in the political process"

Lenin took that to mean "the bourgeoisie are unlike the proletariat, they are uniquely evil". Assuming that by overthrowing the nobility and oligarchs they could build the perfect state, he did the dumbest thing possible. He built the "ideal" system for someone who hadn't studied sociology...a single, central view from on high.

In theory, that's the ideal way to manage resources - you can see where there's a surplus and where there's a need, and respond appropriately.

In practice, he created a system that incentivizes and normalizes lying until you're caught in the same way that a corporation incentives pushing morality and legality to the point you get backlash... It selects for the worst people to rise to the top

Add in the propaganda the US pushes about China and Russia being Communist (they're both absolutely authoritarian but a form of capitalism by any informed definition), and you get a bunch of people who have no idea what they're talking about (tankies) spreading a highly flawed conception of communism, or even just authoritarianism with some Marxist terms painted on

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