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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

nicotine gum is probably as bad or nearly as bad as vaping since nicotine is the aspect of it that is proven to be especially bad for you.

[-] kadu@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's not quite true. Nicotine is indeed the addictive part of smoking, and the source of long term behavioural issues.

But that's not, by far, the most dangerous or impactful aspect of cigarettes or vapes. Cigarettes are little cancer sticks with some of the most absurdly carcinogenic substances known, and it really destroys your lungs ability to expel excess mucus and contaminants.

Vapes don't have nearly the same amount of quite absurdly random crap a cigarette will have, but they're still carcinogenic and they slowly burn cilia and cause inflammatory responses.

Being addicted to nicotine gum could give you headaches, issues with mood, and eventually cardiovascular issues. It's certainly not a good thing - but saying "nicotine is the aspect of it that is proven to be especially bad for you" is simply wrong.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

but they’re still carcinogenic

...Because of the nicotine. Nicotine is a known carcinogen on its own. Propylene glycol and Glycerol are not. Of course it is possible to make vape juice with other additives that happen to be carcinogenic but those can be omitted. There have been studies showing it's possible for vaping to irritate the airways but from what I was reading I didn't see any hard links between that and serious health outcomes, or that this always necessarily happens.

So as best I can tell, my statement is correct, the main thing about vaping that is bad for you is the nicotine, and I wasn't able to find evidence that other (necessary) aspects of it are inherently harmful in a serious way. If you could provide evidence of that I'd consider it.

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