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[-] PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Its funny that OP asked for ugly persons and most make an ugly man out of this..

Like, is there no sich thing as ugly women?

Edit: I dont know what OPs prompt was but it seems that AI is biased here as well.

[-] thelsim@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I did consider women as well, but seeing as how women are already judged more by their appearances than men.. I just didn't feel comfortable with it. I hardly felt comfortable with the one I did post and already removed that one.
Maybe I'll be able to make one about someone who's ugly on the inside :)

Its interesting how sensitive this topic can get once thought through.

Like is it discriminating objectifying faults, baldness and age dots as ugly?

[-] thelsim@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You raise a thoughtful point and it definitely has made me think, thank you for that.

I guess when you think about it. Of course it's discrimination to treat people differently based on their physical appearance, especially those attributes they are born with or unable to change. And calling someone "ugly" because of their appearance is hurtful and dehumanizes them.
But I still feel someone can be ugly because of who they are, how they behave towards others and the way it reflects on them. Someone who's ugly on the inside, mean spirited, petty, vindictive, etc. should be able to be called as such. I know it's not what you meant, but I just wanted to clarify that.

So yes, I agree, it's discriminating to call someone ugly based on their physical appearance. It's also the reason why I felt so disturbed with what I shared. I'm not going into details for those who didn't see, but I felt it was a hurtful depiction of seniors. I should've listened to my heart sooner.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know that it's discriminating so much as it's unkind. Discriminating would be if you treated them unkindly because they were ugly.

It's not that everyone is beautiful, it's that everyone deserves to be treated with respect and dignity, regardless of their appearance.

The reason it sits wrong with me to say it's discrimination is because the perception of beauty is a subjective thing closely related to perception of attractiveness, and is largely beyond an individuals control.

OPs image, for example, bears a striking resemblance to what my father looked like, except angry and with bags under his eyes. I wouldn't have called him ugly, because that would be a cruel thing to say to such a kind warm person, but he was not an aesthetically appealing man.
It's just a fact of life that 80 year olds are rarely beautiful in the conventional aesthetic sense. Doesn't mean they don't deserve respect, kindness and care.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Honestly either way it’s uncomfortable to me. Yeah men are less judged for their appearance, but that’s not not judged.

[-] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I agree. Like I mentioned, my first attempt made me feel very uncomfortable as well.
I try to never judge anyone on their appearance, regardless of who they are. But even the defining and generating of a fictitious ugly person, so others can say if it is ugly or not... I feel dirty about it.
I don't know, it's hard to put into words, but I know I'm never doing something like this again.

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