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[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

use librewolf if you want privacy that much

[-] Vincent@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

But also keep in mind that it couldn't exist without Firefox/Mozilla existing. A world in which more people use Firefox over Chromium-based browsers is a better world.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

ehhh debatable, mozilla still gets a lot of funding from google so they're not as independent as you think. A better world wpuld be one where qtwebkit based browsers, chromium based browsers and firefox based browsers have the same market share.

Unfortunately Apple stole qtwebkit and drove it into the grave so there's little chance of that actually happening :(

I still hold out hope though, and try to use Falkon whenever possible

[-] Vincent@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

A Mozilla dependent on Google seeing value in Firefox sending searches their way is at minimum as good as one in which Mozilla doesn't exist and everybody uses Chromium-based browsers, by definition - and in practice, way better.

But yes, more non-Blink engines in use in general would also be a better world. Alas, that, too, isn't the world we live in.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

I still don't understand why Microsoft dropped Blink. Surely there's nothing for them in letting Google own the browser engine, and it's not like they cannot afford to keep developing their own. Weird.

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I did. But why should I need to? Firefox is the product, if nobody uses Firefox mozilla uses marketshare. Why do we need Librewolf, which really is the only Firefox you should use out of the box? The same with Mull for Android, where damn "Firefox Focus" is their privacy option which is pretty useless.

If Firefox is so bad you need to use Librewolf, Firefox as a product is useless for many people.

I now use Firefox again and harden it myself. But I dont expect ANYONE to do that, as its even a bit too inconvenient for me

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

because the default Firefox is either more convenient for most normal users or gets them more funding because of corporate sponsors

privacy and convenience is always a tradeoff so you can't just make firefox really private like librewolf and expect mass adoption

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I get you. But Firefox is not mass adopted, so you can assume its only the privacy concerned people. If you are about features, Firefox is good. But for the most part, and for people that dont care, Chrome is just as good, but with Webapps, using your phone as a 2FA key, flashing damn GrapheneOS through a browser, faster speed and supposedly a more secure sandbox.

Firefox relies on Google, but Google has no reason to support it anymore. So this funding will probably vanish soon.

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