958
Rule
(sh.itjust.works)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 07 Nov 2023
958 points (100.0% liked)
196
16591 readers
2002 users here now
Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.
Rule: You must post before you leave.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Wow you are very naive. He had to discuss because he wasn't allowed to just bulldoze a village and put his factory wherever he likes. You gracefully ignore that part.
Without laws and without police someone who is stronger than you and/or has more resources than you will just fuck you over. That's exactly what you are criticising about the current system but you ingore that without laws and structures like police in place they would just fuck you over more. Because then nothing is stopping them.
You romanticise people by believing they would side by side storm Elon Musks factory, take his stuff and then be happily singing Kumba Yo.
What would actually happen is that he would pay people or promise them stuff to build his factory on the village, give his community weapons and shoot everyone down who comes near his property.
So maybe you have weapons as well and you win this fight. Now you are the group with all the weapons. What's next? Maybe you want to distribute them around the other villages as well. What if not everyone in your group agrees? What if someone in your group thinks: "Great, now I can finally get that nice house I always wanted that my neighbour is living in."
Yes, he could - it is simply cheaper and easier for him to work within a legal framework that is already designed to benefit him at the expense of the people he wishes to exploit. To use your parlance - you gracefully ignore that part.
Fixed that for you.
Yes. We would. That is why capitalists invented police.
You mean... literally the history of how the institution of police was invented?
There won't be any police around to help him do exactly that, would there? He'll have to deal with the community first... who now has all the guns - as you envisioned.
Do you live in a country without police, btw? How about you move to one without and see how well it works out for you.
So far, you've offered nothing to justify the existence of police except canned liberalsm and worn-out media tropes based on pure copaganda.
Do you have anything else you wanna try running past me or will that be it?