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Translation: Abortion was never a matter of conscience for the GOP. It has always been about political gain.
Abortion to me isn’t a matter of conscious or morality to me at all. It’s about looking at the facts and making a logical decision based on the current available information.
People who are against abortion rights are in my opinion imbeciles who don’t know how to interpret factual information and believe they have the imperative to make life or death medical decisions for other people.
I don’t give a fuck what your religion says about the morality of other people. People who try to make decisions for other people based on their religion can go sodomize themselves with their religious texts.
The only person’s actions your religious belief gets to dictate is your own.
I agree absolutely, healthcare choices are a very personal matter and should never be restricted or abolished. People don't have abortions because they want to murder kids; they have them because of personal healthcare issues and complications that often arise. Even nature itself causes spontaneous abortion, quite often in fact. So for any group of men to delude themselves that they are morally superior for taking abortion off the table is not just ludicrous but in fact as immoral and unnatural as anything people can ever do.
Yea right, the only moral failing involved is the one where people try to use their random sky daddy beliefs to dictate other people’s personal choices and actions.
That is a huge moral and humanitarian failing, I agree completely.
As a Christian, I think like this: who am I tot tell you what values you should have? I have my (Christian) values, you can have yours. Anyone who goes against that is against freedom of religion.
This shouldn't even be a fringe Christian belief. At least one of Paul's letters at the end of the New Testament explicitly spells out, "don't police other people's behavior", in reference to non-christian practices not being a matter for christians to worry about. It follows pretty directly from "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
Yep. Christians are supposed to let the lives they lead be an example for others to follow if they so choose.
Absolutely man, I was raised Christian as well, although that’s one of the broadest categories of religion, could mean just about anything lol… technically I believe voodoo is Christian, and so are the Urantia folks and also the Mormons and Catholics…
I'm ass-deep in mormon country, and it truly is as much about magical thinking as voodoo or any other cult is. That people cant' see how the catholic, mormon, and every other church is a big business that feeds off people's gullibility is astonishing.
This.
Also, if you are a biological male you have no right to any opinion about abortion whatsoever, much less the ability to make it illegal.
I would disagree with this statement and call it out for being sexist, to the point of being antagonistic and hateful towards men.
Anyone can have an opinion about anything they like.
I can believe in the great spaghetti monster and wear a noodle strainer on my head at the dmv, and raises my fists in glory chanting, pastafari!
There is a difference between believing in something and using that belief to dictate what decisions other people can and can not make between them and their doctor.
If you had said biological males had no right to make abortion decisions, I'd be with you... but saying I can't even have an opinion on the topic because the way I was born is somewhere between laughably moronic and maliciously sexist. I'm not even saying I should have a say in the decision my partner has if she happens to get pregnant, but I can and will have an opinion. You might consider it an uninformed opinion since I don't have a life of experience as a woman, but it's still an opinion. Hell, just being a living human being means having the right to think for yourself, which is the essence of having an opinion. You are saying I don't have the right to think for myself because I was born a male.
Abortion is a medical matter and none of the government's fucking business. Their only arguments are religion based and therefore have no business in government consideration, but these fascists have forgotten their place as 'public servants' and have decided to just roll on like their little insurrection had worked. It's really hard to not say anything to get put on a watch list.
Could mean other things. Like that they need to get better at voter suppression and lying to voters about the content of ballot initiatives.
Oh they’re still on it. It’s actually working great. They’ve scored a ton of wins with that shit.
Bingo.
Correct. You know each of these men have some Saucy mistress or a teenage daughter with an active sex life that they had to pay for the abortion of.
You talk to Donald Trump about an abortion bill in 2016 and he's probably gonna tell you "Oh Putin already paid that for me"
I mean I'm not exactly in support of abortion, but it's pretty obvious that the Republican Party are a bunch of heartless monsters and hypocrites
I can sympathize with that attitude though. Sometimes in order to get anything you want you have to compromise your morals. I morally align more with the greens on most issues, but I vote democrat holding my tongue where needed because some is better than none.
They believe it’s immoral to allow people to have abortions, but it’s now clear they’re not going to succeed at stopping it, so instead they’re going to focus on the other people they believe it’s immoral not to hurt.