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submitted 1 year ago by soiejo@hexbear.net to c/anime@hexbear.net

link to read the chapter

Apparently the chapter hasn't really been finished and it was published with some pages in rough draft? I don't know anything more about it. Anyway, what did you all though of it?

Also the chapter deserves a CW for

CWmention of SA

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[-] jaeme@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

CW SA

female love interest

Honestly I'm in the camp of that Kuma would have never married or had kids with Ginny ever. We see his insecurity regarding his buccanner status and past trauma. Kuma loves Ginny but can't bring himself to love her in a posessive way (esp. with the whole marriage proposal by Ginny)

extremely dark aspect of slavery

I think Oda is trying to show another tragedy of Kuma's life as Kuma doesn't see his own life as something valuable. On a subconcious level, he is still enslaved to his abusers' (WG) narrative of servitude and inferiority. Kuma did not let himself be selfish which in a way is what sets him apart from Luffy (or the Nika who he worships) whose self interest protects him and those around him. It's to say that Luffy is free while Kuma is not and that informs their lives.

On a side note the allusions to rape/SA were already made with the Boa sisters and the introduction of the CDs in sabody park.

For the brutality of the chapter, I think Oda does well in juxtaposing the successes of the now Freedom Fighters to the inner despair of Kuma and co. It's the acknowledgement that revolution is brutal and that behind the triumph is real people who've lost nearly everything.

We also get to see Kuma showcase his powers more and more. He doesn't hesitate anymore and is willing to demonstrate how dangerous the paw paw fruit can be.

But I think the bonny part of the chapter was the highlight. Kuma's highest moment in life was taking care of Bonny and not just his immense power.

I think the fact that we got the unfinished manuscript also made the chapter more unsettling from the outset.

Still have complicated thoughts tho.

[-] soiejo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

CWThat's a very good writeup and it does change my mind on some level.

I agree that saying ginny is "Kuma's love interest" was a misstep on my original comment, and that their relationship is more nuanced than that.

On a side note the allusions to rape/SA were already made with the Boa sisters and the introduction of the CDs in sabody park.

So I don't remember now since it's been a long while since I've read them, but until now the notion of SA of slaves by the celestial dragons was mostly a "heavy implication" thing - we see them act extremely gross and possessive towards women, and see the trauma inflicted upon their victims. This fits OP's brand of a manga geared mostly towards children, that ocasionally deals with very dark themes. This chapter however leaves no doubt; Ginny got pregnant while she was enslaved and then she was discarded, and that's why I believe this chapter is very brutal even among the other chapters showing the violence of slavery.

For the brutality of the chapter, I think Oda does well in juxtaposing the successes of the now Freedom Fighters to the inner despair of Kuma and co. It's the acknowledgement that revolution is brutal and that behind the triumph is real people who've lost nearly everything.

That's a good way to put it. All in all, I'm loving how this arc is giving a lot of exposition to the Revolutionary Army in general and Kuma in specific

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