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By MAYA ZANGER-NADIS NOVEMBER 12, 2023 19:09 Updated: NOVEMBER 12, 2023 21:26


Israeli security forces delivered 300 liters of diesel fuel to Shifa Hospital in Gaza early Sunday morning and later received intelligence indicating that Hamas had intercepted the delivery, according to a Sunday night IDF statement.

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[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social -2 points 10 months ago

There’s a really good reason that nations should comply with international law and not do shit like deliberately put military targets in civilian buildings.

Because then the nation economically crippling them will shoot those innocents and commit more war crimes?

When a robber takes a hostage you don’t shoot them through the hostage unless you’re a deranged sociopath.

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This isn't a crime situation. It's a war. A major goal of the international law of war is to mitigate harm to civilians. When one warring party doesn't go along with that plan, the other party is not required to give up on defending itself.

"Ooh, you shot rockets at a city from a school. I guess I can't do anything about that! I've gotta just let you keep on doing that. Wow, putting military stuff in schools is some kind of super power you have, that just prevents me from ever fighting back! Neat! Maybe I should do that too ... oh wait, it wouldn't work, you attack schools all the time, even without military targets in them."

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social -3 points 10 months ago

This is a crime situation. A war crime situation where millions of lives are held forfeit due to the action of hundreds to thousands.

There is a way to go after these people without blowing up every innocent nearby but the conversation has been so poisoned you seemingly think it’s either do nothing or bomb everything.

And as a final thing, this isn’t a self defense thing. Reprisals aren’t defense, they’re revenge after the option for defense is over. You seem a bit mixed up on that.

[-] anteaters@feddit.de -1 points 10 months ago

When a robber takes a hostage you don’t shoot them through the hostage unless you’re a deranged sociopath.

When the "robber" keeps shooting missiles at you, you indeed do shoot. If Hamas cared one bit for the safety of Gaza they would cease their attacks. But they don't. And leave Israel no choice.

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Ok so now that we know how little you value human life my follow up question is, why not use techniques that would separate the hostage from the perpetrator? Why is it important that the criminal dies right that second?

Because a criminal exists any life they stand behind is forfeit so you can get to them? Sounds less like justice and more like blood thirst. This is the same mindset fueling police abuse around the world, so hopped up on militant “justice” they disregard the citizens they claim they want to protect.

[-] anteaters@feddit.de -3 points 10 months ago

You completely ignore that the "criminal" is still shooting at you. Your little metaphor has no relation to the reality but I guess it makes you feel good?

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