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Nikki Haley to launch $10m ad campaign in bid to overtake Ron DeSantis in GOP fight
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Stop trying to make Nikki Haley happen. She's not gonna happen.
She's better than the other chucklefucks on the Republican debate stages.
Would you really rather Trump or DeSantis if it was inevitable that a Republican wins the presidency?
Plus, if she gets the Republican nomination, it's very likely Biden becomes a shoe-in because Trump would either be disqualified or running as an independent (which would really split Republican voters).
If it's inevitable, sure. But it's by far not inevitable. I'd rather take my chances against Trump, because Biden has already shown able to beat him and Trump would rally the democratic base to vote more than if Haley were running. If republicans have realized this, they're smart to swap their focus to a new nominee.
She will be the VP or front runner depending on if Trump goes to jail.
Repubs won't vote a woman in to the White House. Especially if she's currently trailing DeSantis who has become a joke candidate.
They do not have a legitimate contender outside of Trump. Which is ridiculous considering who the opponent will be.
Trump wants a loyal disruptor who is willing to go on the attack with nonsense. Haley has demonstrated all of those qualities, and she can mollify conservative women who feel icky voting for Trump. She is the best choice for VP out of the candidates still in the race. He's not going to pick Meatball or anyone who has directly criticized him. Every critism she's leveled at the former president has been wrapped in compliments, so he'll smugly claim victory when she joins him at the podium.
And if Trump bows out, is ruled out by the courts, or is otherwise unavailable, his supporters aren't going to back DeSantis or Christie. She wins the bigotry ladder competition with Ramaswamy, and she'll say whatever she needs to say to convince conservatives that she will be their woman in the White House. Trumpers will slide over to her camp and say "see, we're not the misogynists, you are!"
She's far too sane for Trump to even consider. The only way Trump doesn't get a sycophant that's dumber than 3 dollar bill is if the GOP makes him take someone from the party. And they can't even get him to show up to a debate so they're getting whoever the next My Pillow guy is as the VP nomination.
Haley is the consummate pragmatist, and as long as Trump is controlling the base, she will continue to be a Trump sycophant. She doesn't have a single opinion that isn't based on a poll, and Trump still polls well.
He won't show up for the debates because he doesn't have anything to gain, and has everything to lose. If he stands up next to people making coherent arguments (I'll disagree on the "sane" bit, but that's not the point), then he will bolster them at his own expense. His followers won't watch the debates if he's not there, and the people watching don't get to see him fumble the ball.
He also doesn't have the time or money to prep for the debates anyway.
Yeah I think it’s between her, ramaswamy, and trump making the decision that running in the primaries against him was a show of bad faith that disqualifies you.
I think Vivek would need to change his name before most of the Republican base would be willing to pull a lever next to his name. Like "Nikki" did.
I actually don’t. The Ramaswamy next to it is still gonna say it. There’s gonna be the people who think America is only for white people, they know who they’re voting for. The name change is more effective for the low information voter and with someone who could pass for white in certain circumstances.
What you’ve got with him is an Indian businessman who is very loudly Hindu in ways that sound just like Christianity (very clearly playing the same game that Shapiro et Al do with their Judaism). And the Hinduism is what I think might be what stops him. He’ll get some of the Christian right, but not enough.
What I think he really has going for him though is everyone else is trying to be trump but with control and follow through or trump but without the baggage or something similar. Vivek, Vivek is trying to out crazy trump. “Y’all loved the wall idea, so fuck you two walls. I’m going to build a second wall to keep the Canadians out too.” That’s fucking insane, but so is trump. If he can make them feel like he understands them and can rile them up right then it might go as well as a rich New Yorker yelling about coastal elites and pretending to shovel coal.