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Crash reporting
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it's a swole doge vs cheems meme
on swole doge side, there are two popups: kCrash and Ubuntu apport. Both have options to see detailed logs and an optional button to send report to developers, along with options to close the popup.
accompanied is a text that reads "Here's the information. What do you wish to do?"
on crying cheems side, there's popup for windows and mac. windows has just a cancel button with report being sent already. mac has ignore and report button. there is no option to see logs without reporting on both. here, accompanied text reads, "let's add this to the personally identifiable information we have on you."
I've been trying for 3 hours to get fedora installed with working Nvidia drivers. Fuck Linux users and their bullshit elitist attitude, this OS is nowhere near user friendly
"Nvidia" and "Linux" in the same message is the problem I am seeing here.
Long story short be mad at Nvidia for not having properly supported drivers, they only just allowed opensource drivers but its very much still alpha software.
They're literally releasing official versions for Linux. I'm not going to be mad at Nvidia, I'm going to be mad at the Linux community at this point for saying in another thread where I was asking about Nvidia support, and they responded 'nah shouldn't be an issue, there are only rarely Nvidia issues. Fucking. Liars.
Official versions sure, but proprietary and they only work with X11 which is essentially deprecated.
Wayland is replacing X11, Nvidia has made no serious attempts to support Wayland in their proprietary drivers. Fedora, Ubuntu, and now Debian (the core three) have all moved to Wayland by default.
So what you're saying is don't use Linux if you're on Nvidia, got it.
Nvidia does take serious steps to support Wayland. Only since like half a year ago and not extremely fast but serious steps non the less.
I only had a driver issue with Nvidia once in more than 10 years running Linux with Nvidia exclusively (need Nvidia for Cuda (and Cuda for work)) and that was fixed by temporarily downgrading
I wish I had that experience. I’ve had issues on every machine/distro I’ve tried to get NVidia working on. Fedora, Manjaro, Mint, Ubuntu, you name it, there’s been driver issues.
Apparently newer cars (20 series or newer) have a lot more problems
Currently I've a 3090 before that I had a 1060 and the 3090 I bought almost at release. I genuinely never had a problem.
I hate saying this because of the all the toxic attitudes around but I ran gentoo and now arch Linux. Maybe they package the proprietary driver better?
I've been tested Linux since 2005 every time I have to reinstall windows and I've never once been able to get Nvidia to work easily. I've done it but it's always been a bitch and a half.
I’ve had literally one instance of linux not playing well with nvidia drivers, and I was running a version of ubuntu more than a year out of updates. Switched to popOS and everything works out the box.
There’s distros confirmed to work for just about every setup, just find one of them to start with rather than troubleshooting yourself in the foot.
I wouldn't say elitist, when most Linux users are trying to get more people to use it. Most are just trying to help show there are better ways, and you have options, instead of just taking whatever shit Microsoft gives you.
If you are perfectly happy with Windows, by all means stick to it. It's a fine operating system. However, if you can get through the learning curve and accept not all hardware manufacturers will support Linux well. It opens up a lot of power and capabilities.
It can't even do basic shit like mount a network drive. Trash OS is trash. I adapted to Mac just fine and android just fine. This bullshit OS will never be made easy to use, that much is apparent.
I use KDE and mounting a network drive in dolphin was very easy. Not difficult in nautilus either
Try a samba v1 network drive and get back to me.
You can use the file manager program or the disk utility for a permanent mount. It works a bit differently than windows. However, it sounds like you are not willing to learn. So I would recommend sticking to Windows.
You should check out my submissions. I'm on day 3 of documenting my linux experience.
It wasn't a simple fix. The drive was off an ASUS router which uses samba v1 and the fix was reenabling it via editing the text files, then the specific mount command in fstab required a 'ver=1' argument to be manually placed in there.
So no my assessment that this is not an easy process is spot on, and I've spent 3 days setting up and configuring linux at this point, all of which I could have done in an hour in Windows.
Yeah, for sure, complex things like that require jumping into config files such as the fstab. Very nice you figured it out! I've been there too.
I don't doubt it would be faster and easier to do in Windows when the router manufacturer intended for users to be using Windows. You are going against the grain sometimes when using Linux, but it is ever so much more satisfying when you do get it working :)
...there's a faq on the router itself that told me how to do it in windows. That was show I got on the right path for Linux. So yes definitely easier when the manufacturer includes instructions for one but not the other. Granted the windows process is significantly easier to get it enabled.
Nobara has them preconfigured. Fedora just makes it tricky because of licencing issues and if you aren't bothered, you may as well use Nobara.
I couldn't even get the live version of Nobara to work. The live USB just said "kernel error".
Just get a distro which ships them by default. I am once again gonna shill Garuda Linux - feels like I do this a couple of times each week.
I may eventually check that out. I was hoping to use a basic version of Linux then configure it for gaming myself to learn a bit, but am quickly realizing that Linux is still as absolutely unfriendly and unusable as it was 20 years ago.
@Phanlix @Holzkohlen Sorry but I can't agree with you on the user friendly side. KDE and Gnome ( to name a few ) have made incredible advancements on that side. While its true some commands are still required, once you get used GNU/Linux imo is better than Windows ( I love being able to install lots of software from one single place, the package manager ).
You should take small steps, dont try to rush your learning experience, enjoy it. If you want to become proficient with a completly different ideology of an OS as Linux is compared to Windows.. dont even try Linux, you are going to suffer
How do you map a network drive? I've literally put 8 hours of my fucking life trying to figure it out and I can't get it to work. It's a must have thing for me to stay in Linux.
@Phanlix I guess you want to mount it so it can be accessed. In that case you need to know what type of protocol its using. Im going to make a guess and say samba.
In that case you need to search for samba documentation for your distro, funny right? Many steps.. but not complex.
I believe you said you were using Fedora, then once again Im guessing, you are using Gnome.
Gnome means Nautilus is your file explorer's name.
The following link is about how to add it on Nautilus, for the smbclient package you should search whats the Fedora equivalent.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/19398/how-to-mount-a-windows-share-in-nautilus-on-ubuntu
Edit: Fedora packages added, can't confirm sorry
dnf install samba samba-common samba-client
Source: https://www.tecmint.com/install-samba-rhel-centos-fedora/
Funny enough I've been googling for hours and came across half a dozen tutorials on this and none have worked I'll let you know if this does
@Phanlix Hope it does ^^
And don't get frustrated, take this as a way to learn new things. You always have Windows or MacOS, but at least give Linux a try, there are some incredible people who make guides from which you can learn lots of things in the Linux community.
The Arch Wiki is a very good source, even if its for Arch you can apply some of its knowledge to other distros
Lol it didn't work.
I'm done. Linux is trash. Can't even do something out of the box that windows has been doing since windows 2000.
I can get this working on Mac, windows and android. Linux has no excuses
@Phanlix Well thats sad. Probably if you could show the error someone more experienced than me in gnome or fedora could help.
Can I recommend you to switch to another distro ( for what I just read from other user, PopOS seems to be good for newbies ) or DE? KDE is a DE which look very similar to Windows and I had 0 problem mounting my samba and nfs drives.
Holy crap I got it to work. smbv1 is not enabled by default on Linux.
Once I went through the tutorial and added
client min protocol = NT1 server min protocol = NT1
to smb.conf, it worked and I could connect!
Sadly it still wouldn't accept my username and password, but I set it to allow anon login and that's working 100% right now. So... just need to figure out why it won't accept username and password. Moment of truth comes when I test VLC again too.
@Phanlix YAY!! So happy you finally managed to get it working
Thanks lol, stream is working great too, much better than Fedora. Way less choppy and it doesn't crash when you seek on VLC, so Pop!OS is clearly the superior distro here.
I do need to figure out the login eventually. I need read/write access and as anon I can't write, but I'll come back to that. I'm getting a ton of stuff set up now.
I'm probably going to end back up on windows.
Did download PopOS though, it already beats the hell out of Fedora because off the rip Nvidia just works.
However I still cannot connect to my network drive. I can see it fine in +other locations, but when I open it it says "unable to access location: failed to mount windows share: software caused connection abort"
OK that's just user error: I want to do what experts are doing but it isn't easy. Why are these experts so elitist! Cry me a river.
There are a lot of pre-made solutions that are user friendly smh
Name them. Because nothing I can find on any forum is working.
It's funny you have to be an expert to get basic functionality lol