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[-] Cowbee@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Being between two ideologies is not a virtue in and of itself. Refusing to align with either of 2 generally shitty Capitalist parties, and being a centrist, are completely different things.

[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I've been called a centrist for simply not supporting either party, so I was under the impression that was a common way of thinking about it.

Using that definition of centrism, I don't actually disagree with anything that was said here.

[-] Cowbee@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

It depends on why you aren't supporting either party. If it's because the libs are too radical and the conservatives are too fascist, then you're a centrist liberal. If you're legitimately outside the scope of those two, such as to the left (or somehow to the right), then you aren't a centrist.

Being extreme isn't wrong either. The strength of a position with respect to current society says nothing about the founding logic for said position. Climate change, for example, must be radically acted on to prevent even worse results from happening, and it must happen now or we will suffer even more.

[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I don't support either one because in many ways I think they are effectively the same. My views are certainly more in line with liberals and I think they are much less directly harmful than conservatives, but the parties themselves are more or less the same to me.

Neither of them effectively push the policy I want, and both purposely create an unnecessary divide between each other. They both need the other to be the antagonist to continue creating this strange dramatic version of politics.

Parts of my family refuses to speak to one another purely because of this. Their views aren't even that far off from each other, but neither of them actually understand each other's views. All they understand is the manufactured hate between each other.

Again, I think conservatives usually cause the most problems, but the other party can't exist in its current form without someone to be angry at. There is no actual motive to stop the problems from being caused, so they are only amplified and worsened.

Both are actively creating a worse place to live in, and I wouldn't support either one regardless of whatever views they claim to have.

[-] Cowbee@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Okay, so it sounds like you're a leftist, and likely to agree that the bourgeoisie deliberately pits the Proletariat against itself as a means to prevent unified action.

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