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The right-wing leader appeared on multiple cable news shows to speak on the current state Israel’s monthlong siege on Gaza, which human rights experts have warned amount to ethnic cleansing and war crimes.

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Türk accused both Israel and Hamas of war crimes, and said that the only solution to the violence is to end the Israeli occupation and allow Palestinians the right to self-determination.

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[-] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 7 points 11 months ago

Zionists in Mandatory Palestine collaborated with the Nazis just prior to the Holocaust. "They" specifically meaning radical Zionists in Israel. As a side note, Holocaust victims who immigrated to Palestine/Israel were often met with derision because the belligerent Israeli Zionists considered their "weakness" an embarassment to them. I've been reading a lot about Zionism recently and the more I learn the further it seems to me from the kind of values I'm familiar with from Judaism. Hopefully the philosophy goes the way of "Manifest Destiny" in the dustbin of history or at least transforms into something that does not require the removal of all Palestinians from their land.

[-] danhakimi@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What is more collaborative:

"They made an agreement where some Jews were allowed to flee the Holocaust"

or

this shit

fleeing versus encouraging and attempting to extend the holocaust, who were the real Nazi collaborators?

[-] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I read through the entire section you linked. Half of the section was also describing the Haavara agreement. The Palestinians resisting violence from the influx of European colonists also recieved some help, but to answer your question according to what you linked the Zionists clearly recieved more support for a longer period of time. In terms of the actual conflict taking place in Palestine at the time, the help the Zionists recieved from the Nazis was significantly more impactful than the help the Palestinians later recieved from the Nazis.

One thing I want to clarify is that it is completely fucked up that the Palestinian leaders speaking with the Nazis named their enemy as all Judaism rather than the actual sociopolitical force which was the true threat to their sovereignty. Anti-semetism was never and is never justified. I'm at least glad that a lot of anti-semetism has been scrubbed from official anti-zionist documentation although I have no doubt some continue to blame all Jewish people even though many of whom also oppose Zionism.

Edit: One more point on conflation. The German Jewish people fleeing for their lives were not the ones who made the Haavara agreement with the Nazis. Zionists made that agreement. The reason is that the Zionists and the Nazis agreed that Jewish people should be expelled from Europe.

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