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[-] Swallowtail@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago

Go vegan. It's better for the planet too.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

being vegan doesn't help the planet at all.

[-] amzd@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

How does reducing land and water use through your food choice not help the planet?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

it doesn't actually reduce the use.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

Please don't tell me you're gonna bring up the stupid soy fields in the rain forest argument :'D

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

being vegan doesn't stop soy from being grown in rainforests

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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

environmental destruction continues whether you are vegan or not.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

also what part of my comment prompted you to post that random response?

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

yep due to the meat industry keeping going regardless of a fairly small demographic quitting their products

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

so maybe you should stop lying to people about being vegan helping the planet.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

It does, if enough people did it.

You're so angry lol

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

what makes you think you can tell anything about my emotional state?

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Cuz youre lying about a very emotionally charged topic and calling me a liar. If you were not emotionally engaged, youd simply point out the data.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

If you were not emotionally engaged, youd simply point out the data.

i've provided exactly as much data as you have.

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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

It does, if enough people did it.

do you have a plan to make that happen? how many people is enough?

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Are u moving goal posts to feel like you're winning something or genuinely expect the comment section in an online forum to solve societal issues?

Less meat produced = better.

How much more better things could be a different wat is irrelevant; using that as an excuse to never do anything is actually damaging.

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[-] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

It takes less land and water to feed someone wheat, soy or corn than to feed them beef, chicken or pork.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

what crops that are fed to beef chicken and pork are parts of plants that people won't eat for the most part. The same fields that grow the soybeans we use for oil are growing soybeans that are used as feed. The same soybeans that are used for oil are used for feed.

[-] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

This is sometimes true. However, e.g., about 4% of the farmland in California is used for alfafa, which is just for livestock. Alfafa is also a very water intensive crop.

Additionally, there are other uses that livestock corn feed could be put to if there weren't so many damn cows, so it's not like we'd be throwing away megatons of silage if it weren't for cattle.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

it's not like we'd be throwing away megatons of silage if it weren't for cattle.

I don't think there is a better use than making food. I'm fine with that.

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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

but beef, chicken, and pork continue to be made in increasing amounts. things are getting worse despite the fact that vegans exist. being vegan doesn't help the planet at all.

[-] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

World population increase + westernization of diets in China outweigh the tiny number of vegans in the western world. Your math doesn't check out.

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[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

I know, i am vegan for those reasons and more :)

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