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[-] Swallowtail@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Go vegan. It's better for the planet too.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

I know, i am vegan for those reasons and more :)

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

being vegan doesn't help the planet at all.

[-] amzd@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

How does reducing land and water use through your food choice not help the planet?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

it doesn't actually reduce the use.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Please don't tell me you're gonna bring up the stupid soy fields in the rain forest argument :'D

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

being vegan doesn't stop soy from being grown in rainforests

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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

environmental destruction continues whether you are vegan or not.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

also what part of my comment prompted you to post that random response?

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

yep due to the meat industry keeping going regardless of a fairly small demographic quitting their products

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[-] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

You are making the false assumption that your consumption is causative to the production of animal products which is, unfortunately and non-intuituvely, untrue. The only difference between vegan and non-vegan diets is whether animal products end up on your plate vs. in "cheese mountain" type stockpiles, exports, landfills, etc.

That being said, 'commie' is a terrible communicator if that's what they're trying to say. Going vegan does help to highlight some of the contradictions of capitalism and you're on the right track as it should be advocated for. However, the 'invisible hand of the free market' does not translate veganism to any reduction in farmed animals, land or water use.

[-] amzd@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

“If you don’t buy it a company will throw it away instead” is not a very good argument to buy something if you even believe it to be true at all.

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[-] java@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago
[-] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It takes less land and water to feed someone wheat, soy or corn than to feed them beef, chicken or pork.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

what crops that are fed to beef chicken and pork are parts of plants that people won't eat for the most part. The same fields that grow the soybeans we use for oil are growing soybeans that are used as feed. The same soybeans that are used for oil are used for feed.

[-] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

This is sometimes true. However, e.g., about 4% of the farmland in California is used for alfafa, which is just for livestock. Alfafa is also a very water intensive crop.

Additionally, there are other uses that livestock corn feed could be put to if there weren't so many damn cows, so it's not like we'd be throwing away megatons of silage if it weren't for cattle.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

it's not like we'd be throwing away megatons of silage if it weren't for cattle.

I don't think there is a better use than making food. I'm fine with that.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but beef, chicken, and pork continue to be made in increasing amounts. things are getting worse despite the fact that vegans exist. being vegan doesn't help the planet at all.

[-] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

World population increase + westernization of diets in China outweigh the tiny number of vegans in the western world. Your math doesn't check out.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

make any excuse you like for why being vegan doesn't help.

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