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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

being vegan doesn't help the planet at all.

[-] amzd@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

How does reducing land and water use through your food choice not help the planet?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

it doesn't actually reduce the use.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Please don't tell me you're gonna bring up the stupid soy fields in the rain forest argument :'D

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

being vegan doesn't stop soy from being grown in rainforests

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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

environmental destruction continues whether you are vegan or not.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

also what part of my comment prompted you to post that random response?

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

yep due to the meat industry keeping going regardless of a fairly small demographic quitting their products

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

so maybe you should stop lying to people about being vegan helping the planet.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

It does, if enough people did it.

You're so angry lol

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

what makes you think you can tell anything about my emotional state?

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Cuz youre lying about a very emotionally charged topic and calling me a liar. If you were not emotionally engaged, youd simply point out the data.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

youre lying

everything i've said is true. you are the one who seems to want to bend reality to match your beliefs.

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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

If you were not emotionally engaged, youd simply point out the data.

i've provided exactly as much data as you have.

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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

It does, if enough people did it.

do you have a plan to make that happen? how many people is enough?

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Are u moving goal posts to feel like you're winning something or genuinely expect the comment section in an online forum to solve societal issues?

Less meat produced = better.

How much more better things could be a different wat is irrelevant; using that as an excuse to never do anything is actually damaging.

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[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, what does that have to do with veganism? Tiny niche doesnt stop global trend. Who knew?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Tiny niche doesnt stop global trend. Who knew?

you're the one telling people being vegan will help, but now you're admitting it doesn't. you should just go edit the comments where you lied about this and apologize to the people who might have been misled.

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[-] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It takes less land and water to feed someone wheat, soy or corn than to feed them beef, chicken or pork.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

what crops that are fed to beef chicken and pork are parts of plants that people won't eat for the most part. The same fields that grow the soybeans we use for oil are growing soybeans that are used as feed. The same soybeans that are used for oil are used for feed.

[-] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

This is sometimes true. However, e.g., about 4% of the farmland in California is used for alfafa, which is just for livestock. Alfafa is also a very water intensive crop.

Additionally, there are other uses that livestock corn feed could be put to if there weren't so many damn cows, so it's not like we'd be throwing away megatons of silage if it weren't for cattle.

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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but beef, chicken, and pork continue to be made in increasing amounts. things are getting worse despite the fact that vegans exist. being vegan doesn't help the planet at all.

[-] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

World population increase + westernization of diets in China outweigh the tiny number of vegans in the western world. Your math doesn't check out.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

make any excuse you like for why being vegan doesn't help.

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