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Senior men have higher rates of suicide than average, and firearms were involved in more than three-quarters of those deaths in 2021, according to a CDC report

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[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Wow....yes it's the guns fault, not that our society is so fucked that people are offing themselves like crazy....naa it's the gun doing it. The fuck outta here.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I didn't say it was the guns fault. Even if we fixed a boatload of societal problems, guns still don't help these situations, and you'd still have people using them because they're available.

The idea that they don't contribute to the problem is laughable.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

They do, but they are not the root cause, and focusing on them is a distraction.

[-] DancingYetiCrab@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

It's not a distraction though.

The vast majority of attempted suicide survivors regret ever trying. They get help and live better lives.

When someone is in a bad state of mind or having a depressed episode that is the time when they are most vulnerable.

Having easy access to an immediate life ending device with the squeeze of a trigger is a major problem.

This is the reason jump nets and barriers work on bridges. Making it slightly harder or more inconvenient to kill themselves saves lives.

[-] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 2 points 10 months ago

As someone who lives in the UK where only farmers can get a gun to protect livestock from dangerous wildlife( which hate on me all you want is a valid reason to own a firearm and not just as a fancy toy to show off like Americans). Statistics show that men tend to use more brutal methods of suicide so not having guns makes no difference because they will simply use a different fatal method. So as someone who lives in a country that has a lot of suicides and no guns for the average joe. Removing guns has solved nothing in terms of suicide.

So please draw info from other countries before making assumptions about how a law would change your country, because otherwise it's very narrow minded, and you will waste time and lives trying to make a solution that already has no effect abroad.

[-] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 1 points 10 months ago

As someone who lives in the UK where only farmers can get a gun to protect livestock from dangerous wildlife( which hate on me all you want is a valid reason to own a firearm and not just as a fancy toy to show off like Americans). Statistics show that men tend to use more brutal methods of suicide so not having guns makes no difference because they will simply use a different fatal method. So as someone who lives in a country that has a lot of suicides and no guns for the average joe. Removing guns has solved nothing in terms of suicide.

So please draw info from other countries before making assumptions about how a law would change your country, because otherwise it's very narrow minded, and you will waste time and lives trying to make a solution that already has no effect abroad.

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