Amazing what happens when you dig beneath soundbytes on healthcare:
Also, until a majority votes based on Gaza and money in politics, neither will be addressed. Just because someone agrees with you doesn't mean it will affect their vote. Sad but true.
Actively ignoring 24% of your base seems fucking crazy, but again.
That's called "doing what a significant majority of your voters want." Not doing so would be political suicide.
Also I’ve voted in every major and minor election since I turned 18. But my favourite part is you’re supposed to vote.
This is not about you. You are not the center of the universe.
But then they look at less than a third of a percent of the vote going to progressive party and ignore us.
Yes, that's called "doing what a significant majority of your voters want." Again. I don't know why that's such a foreign concept.
Retroactive correction
I actually misspoke on the first comment and double checked my source. Progressives are 12% of the left, which comes to 6% of the overall population. Despite how overwhelmingly popular progressives consider themselves to be, they are a very small minority on the national stage. Like vanishingly small. Catering to their priorities at the expense of everyone else's would be patently ridiculous and a surefire way out of office in all but the smallest Congressional districts.
Yes, and did you also see that independents are split 50-50? Even if you got 100% of Democrats you'd still lose scores of swing states without independents, whose views are much more nuanced. It's also important for national campaigns to identify exactly who those voters are. If that 72% will vote for you no matter what, but the remaining 26% will vote GOP or sit out if you push too aggressively toward government-run healthcare, then again it's political suicide to cater exclusively to them. Unfortunately the healthcare debate doesn't exist in a vacuum. Democrats went pretty far out on a limb with the ACA and still paid dearly over the next few election cycles.
I'm telling you that your personal preferences aren't the only thing a politician cares about. They care about public opinion in aggregate. Your personal opinions are irrelevant to this discussion because they don't always reflect majority opinion, and national politics is a game played at the margins in only a handful of states.
They need to organize at the grassroots level, get involved in party politics, and expand their coalition. Majority coalitions are difficult to build but also difficult to disentangle once they're established.
In 2020 and increasingly so, yes. But farther back that wasn't necessarily true. The coalitions who have the most influence now are more or less holdovers from the 1990s and 2000s. Engagement along the ideological spectrum didn't really start changing until after Obama, and you're currently part of an active realignment. That doesn't mean you'll get everything you want right out of the gate, though.
Two things. First, I haven't actually told you how I identify or what I believe. I'm simply telling you how progressives are or aren't represented in major voter statistics. Second, if you zoom out a bit (like multiple decades) you'll find that the Democratic Party has actually made significant strides leftward in terms of abortion rights, healthcare, unions, and green energy investment. Sure for every major accomplishment there's another drawback or step in the wrong direction (investment in green energy but ALSO fossil fuels, for example), but a cruise ship cannot be steered on a dime. Dramatic shifts take time, and coalitions take years and decades to form or dissolve.
Again, this has nothing to do with me. Not sure why you're so wedded to this being an ideological battle between the two of us, as opposed to an observation about national realities. Progressives are not a majority in this country or the Democratic Party. That means they have to be creative and deliberate in how they influence elections. It also means they're often not going to get what they want, but that's ok because nobody gets what they want.
Anyway, it's clear you take this very personally, so I'll leave it there.